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Old 09-27-2009, 08:39 AM   #1
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Well this year I got 'er done without much hassle. The 3 blue valves in the water compartment apparently are as everyone has said, two for low point drain and the one marked "winterizing" is to direct the input flow on the pump from fresh water to anti-freeze line. As far as I know Crossroads does NOT provide the anti-freeze line. I went to buy the cheapest garden hose I could and they were all removed for winter stuff.....except a 6' line with a faucet attachment for extending outside faucet access. I didn't cut the line and 6' worked just fine. There are two valves behind the kitchen panel for the hot water heater bypass. One was hidden behind a water line. After I opened the low point drains I opened the faucets for the washer and dryer (I have neither) to make sure those lines drained. I installed the hot water heater valve shown on the upgrades and mods section. After I winterized I removed the battery and that is a back breaker. You have to lean way inside the front compartment and then lift straight up. The worst part is looking at it everyday knowing we just put it into hibernation for 6 months.
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:10 PM   #2
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I feel for you as I have about one month left before I do the same.....it is a real bummer coming home in the winter time and seeing the camper sitting there looking lonely.....

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Old 09-28-2009, 02:56 AM   #3
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calliopeguy, did you use air to blow out the water lines first and than antifreeze? How much antifreeze did it take?

The reason I ask is we will be using the Kingston at Thanksgiving in IL be camping for around seven days.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:22 AM   #4
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jaallen1 - I used 3 gallons. That is more than required but the stuff is under $3/gallon so I'm not taking any chances. I did NOT use air to blow out the lines. I had 5th wheels since 1995 and not have had a problem yet.....well I did too. I completely filled a water filter cannister with anti-freeze and it froze and split anyway....hard to believe...the thing is about 1/4" thick plastic. Dealer said I should not have used "that cheap anti-freeze" (Menards) so go buy your own replacement cannister. Contacted the factory (Alumascape), sent me a replacement no problem...have no idea why it froze...hell of a mess when it thawed in the spring. I now have my water filter permanently bypassed....will use external if I think I need one. So my procedure:

1. open low point drains (2 blue valves in water compartment and one screw on cap under rig near sewer outlet for fresh water drain).

2. Turn on pump. Open each faucet one at a time and flush toilet to remove any left-over water. Turn pump off.

3.Remove hot water heater plug or open valve if you have one (not standard)

4. Open both faucets on washer/dryer in bedroom to allow water to escape (I don't have a washer/dryer but faucets are still there)

5. Unscrew panel in kitchen to expose hot water heater bypass valves. Turn two valves opposite of whatever they are now.

6. Close all three low point drains

7. Turn blue valve in water compartment to "Winterize". That will change input to the pump from fresh water to anti-freeze line.

8. Screw on piece of hose to middle water connector (Anti-freeze)

9. Insert loose end of hose into anti-freeze bottle

10. Tell wife to turn on pump.

11. Tell wife to turn on one faucet at a time until solid pink fluid comes out.

12. Flush toilet until solid anti-freeze shows.

13. Turn on outside shower (hot and cold) until solid anti-freeze comes out.

14. Use any anti-freeze left over to pour down shower drain, toilet, bathroom sink, and kitchen sink.

15. Turn blue "winterize" valve back to not winterize so you don't forget in spring.

16. Go into the house and commence whining cuz camping season is over....deal with it



Last but not least...I am not a trained professional but I live in Minnesota. Sometimes it gets cold here and I haven't lost a camper yet to the elements. However, there may be somethng I've missed...or actually did but forgot to list it above, or something that could be done better, or something that Iactually did wrongso additional comments or suggestiions are welcome.



Thanksgiving in IL??? Don't they have winter?



We camped one night in 4 below in Kansas....actually wasn't too bad



Hope above helps help

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Old 09-28-2009, 07:55 AM   #5
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Hope you did the hot and cold pipes for the washer and just forgot to put it in your list!
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:02 AM   #6
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One thing you may have missed is to ensure that anti-freeze is in the small section of the city supply line where it supplies water to the system. While the system is pressurized with anti-freeze (pump may be off or on at your discretion), remove the inlet screen from your city supply connection and GENTLY depress the check valve with your finger tip until anti-freeze comes out.

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Old 09-28-2009, 08:52 AM   #7
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calliopeguy, thanks for your list, I disconnected the washer lines so I will not have to mess with them as I do not use them,now there is no chance for a water leak.

Yes, they (camping at my in-laws) have winter in IL but we will have a large group of people at their place, we have found that camping gives us some space and as far as the temperatureit should not get below 15deg.Looking at the basement of the SKI think I will need a heat lamp with a 40 watt bulb in that area and cover the windows with bubble wrap as this unit does nothave as much insulation as our other cr.



billyrabbit, I would think that if I would use air before I use the antifreeze that would take care of the city water supply line what do you think?
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:29 AM   #8
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GeorgeC - Are you referring to something other than point #4 on my list?
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No. Sorry I missed that.



On edit: Did you get antifreeze through those lines?Edited by: GeorgeG
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:19 AM   #10
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GeorgeC - Ya know, my wife asked that same question. Now I gotta go out there, crawl over the bed, and look to see if there is any anti-freeze in the washer/dryer lines. Guess it wouldn't make any difference, either full of anti-freeze or empty but I'm just curious.

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