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Old 05-06-2012, 03:06 AM   #1
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Ok so now mabye we might be intermediate newbies lol..that's probably a stretch..ok the latest update.



We need

help..lol..we’ve been doing so much research..but let us know what we missed

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The

Crossover Slingshot GT29BH is good fit for us ( 2 adults), the dry weight for

this model is 4527. </span>We have added in 70lbs

for optional add ons, 120lbs for the 2 propane tanks, and 200lbs for personal

effects, totaling 4920 (5000 total).</span>



We are

looking at the Toyota Tundra 4.6 8cyl with the tow package Price is the major

consideration. The curb weight is 5385# and we would add in 1315# for the tow

package/hitch, 500# for us and cargo totaling 6450.</span>



Our usage

would be round trip towing from New Hampshire to Florida (1500 miles 1 way). The

rest of time it would be parked in a camp ground (NH) or driveway (FL). We’re

also planning 3 – 4 occasional short distance trips (600 miles roundtrip) per

year from either location. Thanks in advance for your help, Kevin and Mrs.Kevin </span>



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Old 05-06-2012, 06:39 AM   #2
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200 lbs for personal effects is really under estimating it. Most people tend to pack about 1000-1500 lbs into their trailer. Clothes, dishes, linens, chairs etc really do add up fast. So you are really looking at closer to at least 6000 lbs loaded. You then want to look at about 13-15% of the loaded weight for hitch weight (about 900 lbs if weight is 6000 lbs). Look at the sticker inside the door of the tundra you are looking at. What is the listed available payload (or weight cargo and occupants should not exceed)? You then subtract your 500 lbs for cargo and you plus the 900 lbs of tongue weight from the number in the door. Are you still in a positive #? Also, what is the GCWR of the tundra you are looking at? Subtract the loaded weight of the tundra from that and it will give you your adjusted towing capacity. (ie loaded weight of both tundra and trailer need to be less than GCWR and tongue weight needs to be less than available payload). Hope this helps you some. For what its worth, the newer tundras have a pretty good rep for towing but that is the larger engines.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:48 AM   #3
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Helloyou have a really nice trailer and wow my wife and I were in Cary NC around end of March,me for a business trip put us up in a nice hotel. Anyways thanks for the info, more homework to do.. so this is rocket science. We are hoping after all the calculations to be able to come under for the 4.6 vs the 5.7 V8( w tow package ) the 5.7 get real pricey but we'll have calculate thanks for your help, Kevin
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Small world huh? Around here, Cary is an acronym that stands for Containment Area for Relocated Yankees. I am one of those relocated yankees. As for the rocket science... I didn't do enough homework in the beginning and ended up having to upgrade my tow vehicle. I only paid attention to the overall tow capacity of my armada and not the payload and I ended up pushed all over the road by passing vehicles (not just semis) and I was even pushed down a 7% grade. Needless to say, I am now a big supporter of spending the money on the bigger TV.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:31 AM   #5
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Hi Cary, NC and thanks for the great belly laugh. And you certainly conveyed words of wisdom that I think we mayneed (mm gulp) to consider the 5.7 V8 Tundra w/tow package. Ok the grandkids will just have to be happy with gifts from the dollar store...lol
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kelticroam,

Perhaps my situation may add something to your ultimate decision.

We currently have a 2 yr old Slingshot 23CK ( 3200 empty, about 42- 4300 lbs loaded, including passengers) which, for the first year, we pulled with a 4.8 litre GMC Sierra. We do a lot of long distance travelling i.e. from BC Canada to Oregon, Banff and the US southwest (I am actually typing this in our trailer from Page Arizona). Even though the trailer is only 42-4300 lbs, we found the former truck could tow it reasonably well on flat up to about 50 mph. However, when trying to do 60 or more on flat Interstate or anything through hills/mountains, the truck bogged right down and I was in 3rd or 2nd and hitting pretty high revs, with speeds right down to 35 mph, especially doing the hill climbs. I could not drive even on flat without being in 3rd gear and doing about 2800 rpms. It was so bad that, after the first year of towing the trailer, we bought a 6.2 L, 6 spd, rated for 10,400 lbs (and even with this truck, I am in 5th at 2300 rpms at 65 on the flat).

Not sure what that truck is rated to tow, but don't get too confident with the manufacturers specs. My former truck was rated to tow about 7000 plus and I'm sure they got this rating by towing downhill through a school zone at 20 mph cause it could not have been during real driving scenarios.

Can you tow the trailer with the truck you described? Probably. But you will sure know you have a trailer and will really be working it if you travel Interstates or over 55 or up/down hilly country. If you were towing to/from the lake on a short 50 mile trip on the weekend, the combo would probably suffice. But I'll guarantee, for the distances you describe, you'll pretty soon regret your decision. I would go for at least a 5.3 (or smaller trailer....).

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Hi Marpel, your thoughts were excellent and we thank you. We went out to dinner last night and Mrs. Kevinsaid you know from what we're hearing from people we may have to bite the bullet and get the 5.7 Tundra V8 why take any chances. This is what we're hearing from folks could be cutting it close and having problems like the ones you said in the post. I read an article the other day which hits one of those points you said..The truck manufacture uses some pretty skewed methods to determine their towing capacity..of course all in the name of salesand can leave many consumers left in the dark. So thankful for boards like this. So Marpel you were right I found in the same article that Toyota was the first manufacturer coming forward and stating "Ah shucks we'll give you the real tow capacity" So on website 5.7 Tundra V8 is rated for something like 10,100 lbs...what the real tow capacity is 8200lbs which would be much better for us cause you know that 4.6 is much lowerSupposedly truck manufacturers are suppose to comply with the real tow rates in 2013 but I didn't read exactly how they will do this. Thanks again Kevin and Mrs Kevin
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kelticroam,

Glad I could help. Getting the right vehicle to tow a trailer makes the excursions so much less stressful, however the cost is always a factor.

I don't think the new tow ratings are compulsory (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that) but are a set of standards that the major truck makers have agreed to use when rating their vehicles (although I think one is talking about backing out - could be Toyota). I think Dodge (could be wrong on that, but one of them) is already using it, which is why their tow ratings went down from one year to the next. If I recall correctly, they have even agreed on a grade and length of hill to test their trucks for pulling power as well as a standard rpm when quoting the load rating (like what does ______ lbs at 5800 rpms have to do with the real world anyway?).

Anyway, good luck with your purchase.

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This info scares me. We are in the midst of purchasing a 2011 Slingshot 23ck (UVW 3220#)to be picked up end of May. Test tow was done with our 2007 Trailblazer 4.2 inline six with no issues whatsoever.

We are using an Equalizer brand hitch. Could this make that much of a difference?
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We bought an F-150 ecoboost screwcab with tow max to tow our gt25bh. Way overkill, but tows with extreme confidence. The truck may have saved our lives when a very large flat fronted charterbus bow wave at 80+mph gave us a lift off the road. The stability control took over and kept us on the road. That kind of comfort level is worth every penny!
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