2012 Dodge Ram

[delqcc]

Hunter11, just FYI, my 2011 with the newer 6.7 has the urea and with 17K and at least 10K with a trailer behind it, I have absolutely no issues with soot. The engine also runs smoother than my 08 F450 did with the DPF/burner. Also net out at about a 25% increase over the 08 on mileage.

[Hunter11]

Daniel, I may be wrong but I think that is only the 4500 and 5500 that are using Urea injection since 2011. Dodge will be adding it to the 2500 and 3500 in 2013. I have no doubt once they add it like the other two diesels a lot of the issues will clear up. I just don't want one until they do.

[HEH458]

delqcc, Keith is right about only the 4500 and 5500 C&C having UREA. 2013 will be the first year for all of the Dodge diesels to use UREA. Also, I hope a salesman did not tell you your truck has 400hp and 800p of torque. The 4500 & 5500 C&C's do use the Aisin tranny but they have reduced hp and torque #'s. I believe the hp and torque is the same as it is on the 2500 and 3500 trucks with the manual tranny. Ok, I just looked it up and the hp is 305 and the torque is 610.Edited by: HEH458

[Horken]

About the vent control problem:

I had it repaired by my mechanic here in Oakhurst. It seems inside the dash there is a box that has doors that open and close according to what the switch positions are on the dash controls. (heat to feet, heat to face, defrost etc)

My guy told me that there are stops or plastic pins that break inside this box. (I think it's called a plenum) When this happens the door will stay open in one position. Then you get no defroster in my case.

He removed the dash (big mess) He bolted wood blocks where these pins were and now it will never break and it works perfect $600

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[Hunter11]

My wife's 06 had the blend door break but it was still under warranty. I was told by the dealer it would have been a $800 to $1k repair by them.

[Kamper Dave]

Daniel & Hunter,
Forgive my ignorance. Is this not the same EREA that I was spreading on the farm fields back in the 70's? That stuff would eat your finger off. How do these new diesels use Erea? Is it still as caustic to the engine and truck body? As I recall mixing fuel and fertilizer can cause a big bang. It sure aids in blowing pot holes in the marsh.

I would pick up Erea from a bulk plant and drive it to the farm in an OLD IH. I dropped Erea from the cracks and holes in that wooden box all of the way back. I always figured that I kept several County workers busy all summer cutting down weeds along the roadways. DW once threw a handful in the garden, had tomatoes plants 8' tall and NO fruit. We were young and dumb.

[Hunter11]

Dave, below is about the best description I could come up with.



http://www.dieselurea.com/

[shoe2728]

On the vent door problem.
I got my shop manual out the other day and started looking into it. Pulled off the Instrument panel and pulled out the A/C control, it looked ok, Then underneath the dash there is a connector for the Vacuum lines, pulled that apart and tested for vacuum and worked each door. Sure enough the floor vent door was stuck open. I could see that the arm from the control had come off the door. I just couldnt reach it. So pulled off the Cup holder and still no go. Then under the cup holder there is another plastic housing that covers the Air bag control module, mounted in a metal bracket, was able to remove the bracket and module(didnt have to unplug module). I was able to reach the arm and lever, but you had to reach up around and twist and cuss and throw things and even kick the dog to get the lever back on, then I discovered the pin on the lever that goes into the arm is broke. There was just no way I could fix it without pulling the whole dash off. So I took a good stiff piece of foam and was able to wedge it so the control arm would keep the door closed. So at least now I have air to my upper vents and the defrost works. If I decide to keep my truck I will fix it. If you have the big shop manual it shows you how to remove the dash to get to it. It is more time consuming than anything. The big thing when working under the dash you need to disconnect your batteries and wait about 2-3 minutes before doing anything. That will discharge the circuit that can deploy the airbags.

[shoe2728]

Now on to the New Dodge Diesel.
The more I look into I just dont know. After going to the Dodge Diesel forum and reading about this repurging system and people having trouble with soot build up, getting the code 80% plugged up, then have to go out and drive around so the soot can burn off. Not sure what to do. About everyone on that site says to do Deletes (remove the emission stuff) and they get better fuel mileage and the truck runs better. Course if you do that it could very easily void your warranty. So I may look at a Ford. Sure wanted the Dodge because I can get a much better deal.

[CygnusSailor]

I have the 2012 Dodge Ram Cummins and I am very impressed with it. I have tons of towing power and get about 12mpg when towing and 20+ when running empty. When I took delivery on it, my dealer commented on how much quieter the 2012's were compared to previous models. My wife didn't like the idea of having the extra width of dualies so I stepped up to the 3500 and went with the 3.70 rear end. Like you, I sought the opinions of others on this forum and I am very pleased with the advise I received. My truck is loaded, the only options I didn't get were dualies, rear dvd player and 4WD. My wife and I have no use for the rear dvd player and I figured that, for the few times that 4WD might be nice, I couldn't justify the loss of mpg and the extra cost. Every other option, including the high end stereo/GPS system is on my truck and I love it.

[CygnusSailor]

Correction!!! I have the 2011!!

[shoe2728]

Hey, thanks for your reply, I to have the cf305skp. Good to hear about

your truck. Now guess I will check to see what the differences are

between 2011 and 12 emissions stuff.

[Hunter11]

As far as I know the emissions equipment is all the same since 2010. If you could hold off until the 2013 models come out they will have the Urea injection like the Ford and Chevy have now. That should help with the current issues they are having.

[joescuba]

shoe2728
,my 2007 only has had the 80% plugged show up one time,if you are in the country (i am 6 miles to town ),i dont think it will be much of a problem

[buddy933]

I have a 6.7 4500 Dodge, 2008 with 45000 miles. BIG brakes and pulls great. Get 19 MPG pulling a 40 foot toy hauler loaded at 70 to 75mph. I put a reg bed on it, is tall tho and 488 gears, would sug. 410 if pulling large camper

[Hunter11]

"Get 19 MPG pulling a 40 foot toy hauler loaded at 70 to 75mph."



You sure about that?????????

[old guy]

i just traded a 2005 2500 with 103,000 miles on it for a 2012 3500 laramie on tuesday i drove the new truck about 10 miles home to get the bosses aprovall .she drove it back we both love it .power level of 2012 is just awsome compared to my 2005 and mind numbing compared to a 1996 2500 i had before 2005.picking up new truck on friday.can`t wait toi did not read all replies but 2500 & 3500 don`t get urea crap till 2013 i`m going to have images of cummins diesel powered trucks dancing in my head all night.it will be like waking up early christmass mourning and being told you have to wait for everyone else to get up first. oh i almost forgot to say this is new puller for a 2012 cf335ss. thanks for reading

[shoe2728]

This forum is just great, its nice to get real peoples input. Thanks very much

[buddy933]

Correction, 10 miles pergallon, 50%Bio.

[moparguy62]

Let me know how he likes it, and mpg towing. I just traded my 2009 hemi 1500 in for a 2012 3500 diesel laramie SRW. I'm towing my 5er at the end of the month.



Brian