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Old 03-27-2017, 06:01 PM   #1
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Evening folks,

Has anyone been using the Anderson Ultimate 5th wheel hitch. There are a lot of good reviews on YouTube. Pin weight of 4,500 pounds, tow weight of 24,000 pounds. Aluminum only weights 35 pounds. Planning to travel and spend 2-3 months at a time in areas. Would be great to have a hitch that is easy to remove and leave my truck bed, (when I buy a truck), available. The $732.00 price tag doesn't hurt either.

I've searched the forums and there are a few random posts but nothing really definitive. Anything anyone can offer would be great.

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Evening folks,

Has anyone been using the Anderson Ultimate 5th wheel hitch. There are a lot of good reviews on YouTube. Pin weight of 4,500 pounds, tow weight of 24,000 pounds. Aluminum only weights 35 pounds. Planning to travel and spend 2-3 months at a time in areas. Would be great to have a hitch that is easy to remove and leave my truck bed, (when I buy a truck), available. The $732.00 price tag doesn't hurt either.

I've searched the forums and there are a few random posts but nothing really definitive. Anything anyone can offer would be great.

Thanks,
Sean
I was skeptical of the Anderson Ultimate Hitch (AUH) as I have a gooseneck flip over ball and my previous camper had an Anderson Ranch hitch (gooseneck adapter).

That ranch hitch got the job done on the smaller 5ver it was on, but it was a chucking pos. I had to play 80s hair music it was that bad.

I have many trailers that are gooseneck and I wasn't excited about a clunky heavy fiver attachment in my SB F250. So I sprung for the steel AUH (70 lbs) to attach to my drawtite gooseneck ball.

The product is awesome! No chucking and a solid product.

I have a 1/4" thick rubber mat under mine and it works great.

If you check the Ford and dodge truck forums you can find lots of happy users.
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:19 PM   #3
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Thanks for the input. Newer trucks have the pucks for installing a 5th wheel hitch. I'm not sure if they are brand specific. They also have a puck that uncovers a gooseneck receiver.

I saw this couple on YouTube that had the AUH in aluminium pulling a 44 foot toy hauler. The guy doesn't seen all that knowledgeable, but in the three months they have been on the road haven't mentioned a problem.

The cost isn't a factor over safety and convenience. It would be great to be able to pull the 35 pound hitch out and stash it under the 5th wheel when we are parked for a couple of months at a time when we go full time.
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Thanks for the input. Newer trucks have the pucks for installing a 5th wheel hitch. I'm not sure if they are brand specific. They also have a puck that uncovers a gooseneck receiver.

I saw this couple on YouTube that had the AUH in aluminium pulling a 44 foot toy hauler. The guy doesn't seen all that knowledgeable, but in the three months they have been on the road haven't mentioned a problem.

The cost isn't a factor over safety and convenience. It would be great to be able to pull the 35 pound hitch out and stash it under the 5th wheel when we are parked for a couple of months at a time when we go full time.
Yes most newer trucks "can" come with the gooseneck / fiver prep as long as the dealer ordered it right.

This was not the case on my 2012 superduty.

You'll should also check out Pullrites version of the AUH. I believe it has the ability to pair up with factory rail mounts.

Come to think of it so should the AUH rail mount version.
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I was skeptical of the Anderson Ultimate Hitch (AUH) as I have a gooseneck flip over ball and my previous camper had an Anderson Ranch hitch (gooseneck adapter).

That ranch hitch got the job done on the smaller 5ver it was on, but it was a chucking pos. I had to play 80s hair music it was that bad.

I have many trailers that are gooseneck and I wasn't excited about a clunky heavy fiver attachment in my SB F250. So I sprung for the steel AUH (70 lbs) to attach to my drawtite gooseneck ball.

The product is awesome! No chucking and a solid product.

I have a 1/4" thick rubber mat under mine and it works great.

If you check the Ford and dodge truck forums you can find lots of happy users.
How do you attach safety chains to the pin box?
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Anderson has a safety chain kit that replaces the large bolts that clamp the adapter to the king pin with bolts that have a ring attached to the head so that the included chains can be attached.

There is a great debate within the rv community as to wether safety chains are needed using the AUH. Requirements vary and none of them are specific enough to make a conclusion for this type of connection.

I do know this, you will not find any reports of the trailer becoming disconnected with the AUH since it was introduced to the market, but you find hundreds of reports of fivers becoming disconnected with the standard fiver connection and no safety chains.
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There is a great debate within the rv community as to wether safety chains are needed using the AUH. Requirements vary and none of them are specific enough to make a conclusion for this type of connection.
While the wording of state laws may be both inadequate and out of date relative to the AUH, technically all ball connections NEED safety chains. That is because there are multiple sizes of balls and couplers. While a 1-7/8" coupler won't fit on a larger ball, the opposite is not true and in those cases, the standard lock mechanism is worthless. Later visual inspection will not reveal this mistake. Hence, safety chains. Admittedly, the number of ball sizes available for GN hitches is limited, but getting state lawmakers to understand and write GN specific laws would probably be a worse disaster. OTOH, there is only one king pin size for all fifth wheels and semi trailers.

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I do know this, you will not find any reports of the trailer becoming disconnected with the AUH since it was introduced to the market, but you find hundreds of reports of fivers becoming disconnected with the standard fiver connection and no safety chains.
"hundreds" is probably overstated, in 28 yrs I've seen one case and heard of tens of cases, but not hundreds. If it happened that often, then the number of cases of semi trailers becoming disconnected would number in the thousands. Besides the real concern is what happens in the event of an accident and there are many examples of fifth wheel hitches (RV and tractor-trailer) that remain hitched thru really terrible accidents. In fact when it comes to RV accidents, I can't recall a single fifth wheel hitch failure.
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While the wording of state laws may be both inadequate and out of date relative to the AUH, technically all ball connections NEED safety chains. That is because there are multiple sizes of balls and couplers. While a 1-7/8" coupler won't fit on a larger ball, the opposite is not true and in those cases, the standard lock mechanism is worthless. Later visual inspection will not reveal this mistake. Hence, safety chains. Admittedly, the number of ball sizes available for GN hitches is limited, but getting state lawmakers to understand and write GN specific laws would probably be a worse disaster. OTOH, there is only one king pin size for all fifth wheels and semi trailers.



"hundreds" is probably overstated, in 28 yrs I've seen one case and heard of tens of cases, but not hundreds. If it happened that often, then the number of cases of semi trailers becoming disconnected would number in the thousands. Besides the real concern is what happens in the event of an accident and there are many examples of fifth wheel hitches (RV and tractor-trailer) that remain hitched thru really terrible accidents. In fact when it comes to RV accidents, I can't recall a single fifth wheel hitch failure.
Feel free to research the many popular pickup truck forums for Fiver connection failures. I did before purchasing my AUH.

Lots and lots of pictures. I will agree that most of them were operator error and mostly overloaded.

If I forget to latch my AUH connection on my rig will it come off?

What happens to traditional 5th connection?

Semi tractor king pin systems and rv systems while similar in concept are far from equal in quality and construction.

If you can find a gooseneck trailer that can fit on top of an AUH without removing the entire nose assembly and still be operable, I'll be impressed.

The truth of the matter is all trailers should have safety chains because of the human error factor.
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It doesn't make one bit of difference whether it's a RV 5th wheel or a semi tractor trailer unit. If you forget to latch/lock the hitch, you are going to drop the 5th wheel on the bed of your truck when you pull ahead, and a semi will land on the rear end of the tractor frame.
Visual inspection after you back in and hookup is imperative.
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Feel free to research the many popular pickup truck forums for Fiver connection failures. I did before purchasing my AUH.

Lots and lots of pictures. I will agree that most of them were operator error and mostly overloaded.
No need for research, plenty of experience and countless hours on both truck and RV forums and tons more is posted about fifth wheel hitch 'failures' on these RV forums than any place else.

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If I forget to latch my AUH connection on my rig will it come off?
In an accident or severe maneuver to avoid one, possible. If you feel that it won't come off, are you still using the latch anyway?

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What happens to traditional 5th connection?
As Lloyd stated, it will drop immediately.

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Semi tractor king pin systems and rv systems while similar in concept are far from equal in quality and construction.
You miss the point, if fifth wheel hitch 'failures' were due to a preponderance of evidence against the design, quality or construction of a specific fifth wheel hitch, it would no longer be on the market. There is no such evidence against RV fifth wheel hitches.

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If you can find a gooseneck trailer that can fit on top of an AUH without removing the entire nose assembly and still be operable, I'll be impressed.
I'm not sure what this is in reference to. But to lawmakers, all ball connections are the same and probably very few applicable laws have been revised since the AUH was introduced into the market. If lawmakers understood that the AUH has other semi-permanent attachment points (potential points of failure) in addition to the ball connection, they might require even more backup systems.
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