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Old 07-12-2012, 11:07 AM   #1
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OK I need some help!!!!! We are hours away from sealing a deal on a ST25RB. Thought all was good and decided to weigh my truck with all my gear in it. Weight out at 6349 lbs. GVWR of my Silverado (with Vortec 5.3L, H.D. trailering equipment, H.D. cooling package) is 7000 lbs. That only leaves me 651 lbs which is 63 lbs under the rated tongue weight of the ST25RB Ok I know your thinking 65 lbs big deal right????well this is without wife food ETC????



Other than the Hitch weight my truck is rated to tow this trailer so my question is: is the tongue weight listed in the Cascade brochure of 714 lbs the Dry hitch weight or the loaded hitch weight of the unit? And does the hitch weight change as you load the trailer?



AM I tring to squeeze to much trailer onto the back of my truck or am I just getting 1st time jitters and try to talk myself out of the deal????????



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Old 07-12-2012, 11:38 AM   #2
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I think the hitch weight referred to on the brochure is indeed the dry hitch weight, and yes it increases with the load of the trailer...and is usually figued to be about 20% of trailer weight...
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:40 AM   #3
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first everyone is going to need to know what year your truck is. Also what year is the ST25RB? On the Crossroads website it only puts the dry tongue weight at 560lbs for a new one?



Second the tongue wieght of 714lbs is with nothing in the trailer and that weight will go up as you load the trailer. Your tounge weight, once loaded,should be 12%-15% of the total weight of the trailer. So say you have a 7000lb trailer dry weight. You add 1000lbs of gear to the trailer, your tongue weight should be minimum 12% or 960 lbs. and can go up to 15% or 1200 lbs.Edited by: fixit5561
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:59 AM   #4
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Fixit thanks



Truck is a 2009 and the ST25Rb is a 2012



Ill look at the website as well.



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Old 07-12-2012, 12:02 PM   #5
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:10 PM   #6
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Its also the reserve packageif that makes any difference?
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How much gear do you have in your truck? 6349# seems heavy for a 1500. My signature f-250 with a half tank of gas, me, 5er hitch, and inbed toolbox weighs in at 6400#.
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I pulled mine with an 03 Silverado 5.3 trailer pkg etc. The power was ok but I found my front end feeling a little light. Even adjusting the equalizer hitch to try and get it better didn't help. I know the newer Silverados are rated to pull more. Recently upgraded to a new Dodge 1500 and it is quite away better.

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If your truck is equipped with P-type tires then your GVWR is limited to the tire capacity. You can upgrade that by going to a C, D or even E rated tires. Just be mindful that your rear axle has a rating as well and you definitely don't want to exceed that. The trailer that you have in mind has a GVWR of 7560# and your truck equipped as it is, should be able to readily pull it. If it's the tires that are limiting your weight get some LT tires. They well increase your payload capacity and are lot more stable for pulling a TT.

As an example, the rear axle on my 2500HD is rated at 9000# but the RAWR of the truck is 6048# and that is because the tires for the truck are each rated to carry 3042#. If I was put on a larger tire then I could increase my payload without overrating the axle.Edited by: Hamops
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x2 what Hamops said. Tires are critical. I pulled a 29 ft Sprinter TT that weighed 6800# empty with a 2001 GMC Sierra 1500, 5.3, 3.73 rearend. Pulled great. Originally truck had a 3.55 rearend. GMC dealer changed it out to a 3.73 for 850.00. Well worth it. It was a 2wd so cheaper to do than a 4wd. Something else to consider, especiall if its a 2wd.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:59 AM   #12
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Hey all thanks for the great responses.

I spoke with my mechanic today and he stated the same thing....get some e rated tires and I will be fine. As a note I also spoke with a peace officer here (asked him to take his official hat off) and he said he would pull that rig with my truck no problem. Also said that unless the bumper is dragging they would have no reason to question my rig.

I figure good WD hitch and sway control and all should be fine!



Looks like its a go!!!!!!!!



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