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Old 06-01-2017, 10:18 AM   #1
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New trailer - enough truck?

We just made a verbal confirmation to buy a new Sunset Trail, Grand Reserve, SS26SI trailer. I want to get some feedback on our truck / camper combo.

Our tow vehicle.

We have a 2012 Ford F150, XLT, Super-Crew, Ecoboost and the Max Tow package. The door sticker shows we have 1788 lb payload. GCWR 17,100, and max trailer weight is 11,200 lbs. It's just me and my wife, so our weight is about 450 lbs. We normally carry 2 bicycles, a portable grill, box of tools, 2 zero gravity chairs, and a case of water in the bed.

Our New Trailer

Overall length 30'. GVWR 7600 lbs. (dry 5986). Tongue wt: 740 lbs

Our current trailer. (2013 Sunset Trail Reserve, ST20CK)

Overall length is about 24'. GVWR 5500 lbs.

We currently use a weight distribution hitch and have never had any issues. However, this new trailer is considerably heavier, and about 6 feet longer. So I'm wondering -

1. Is this a safe load?
2. How much difference will I notice behind the wheel?

Thanks... Mike
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:47 AM   #2
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We just made a verbal confirmation to buy a new Sunset Trail, Grand Reserve, SS26SI trailer. I want to get some feedback on our truck / camper combo.

Our tow vehicle.

We have a 2012 Ford F150, XLT, Super-Crew, Ecoboost and the Max Tow package. The door sticker shows we have 1788 lb payload. GCWR 17,100, and max trailer weight is 11,200 lbs. It's just me and my wife, so our weight is about 450 lbs. We normally carry 2 bicycles, a portable grill, box of tools, 2 zero gravity chairs, and a case of water in the bed.

Our New Trailer

Overall length 30'. GVWR 7600 lbs. (dry 5986). Tongue wt: 740 lbs

Our current trailer. (2013 Sunset Trail Reserve, ST20CK)

Overall length is about 24'. GVWR 5500 lbs.

We currently use a weight distribution hitch and have never had any issues. However, this new trailer is considerably heavier, and about 6 feet longer. So I'm wondering -

1. Is this a safe load?
2. How much difference will I notice behind the wheel?

Thanks... Mike

IMHO You're looking good Mike. Safe? Yes, if set up right including anti-sway bars and have your brake controller dialed in correctly. Keep that tongue weight well within the trucks limits and you should be pleasantly surprised that it feels about the same as your current trailer pulling down the road. I found the less weight I have in the front storage area and under the bed, the better the whole rig handles, even if that means moving "stuff" to the bed of the truck. Get a tongue scale. Well worth the investment. I weight the tongue before every trip. The first time I used it, I was actually over my truck limit and had to "purge"

As far as comfort towing, that is personal preference. You got a lot more trailer back there. Cross shear winds will be more noticeable as I found when we went from a 27 to 33 footer a few years back. Also getting in a out of gas stations, campgrounds will be a tad more tricky, but not too much to fret.

I have the same truck and pulling 36' 9700#GVWR trailer with a ProPride 3P WDH with no issues, but again, it's what you're comfortable with. I've added airbags and sway bars to my truck also. The rear sway bars in particular have made a HUGE impact when both towing and daily driving. Just something to consider down the road to take "the edge" off.

Again, all personal preference on comfort of towing.


BTW
I found a spreadsheet online that I have posted links numerous times on this forum. You input all your maxs, weights for your vehicle and it calculates a safety margin. I can PM you the link if you want, frankly I think you look good with what you've shared.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:51 AM   #3
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Thanks! I think I'll be fine as well. I do have a sway bar now, and wdh. Not sure if I'll need to upgrade anything, but I'm open do that if need be. My biggest concern I guess is wind pushing me around a bit more. Guess we'll see.
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Thanks! I think I'll be fine as well. I do have a sway bar now, and wdh. Not sure if I'll need to upgrade anything, but I'm open do that if need be. My biggest concern I guess is wind pushing me around a bit more. Guess we'll see.
YW

No matter what your towing with the wind can always get whipped enough to push you around. We had wind storms a few years back coming home from Yellowstone. Actually saw a bad truck/travel trailer accident on the other side of the road. We just pulled off until it passed through.

I hazard to guess it won't feel that much different.
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No matter what your towing with the wind can always get whipped enough to push you around. We had wind storms a few years back coming home from Yellowstone. Actually saw a bad truck/travel trailer accident on the other side of the road. We just pulled off until it passed through.

I hazard to guess it won't feel that much different.
I'm hoping not to notice too much difference. I typically cruise at about 63 mph as well, so never in a hurry.
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You must have max pay and max tow by the sounds of your numbers. If that's the case I think you will be fine.
If you do find that the tail is wagging the dog once in awhile, then I would suggest you invest in a Hensley or Pro-Pride.
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I went from a 26' to a 33' that had the wide stance axles and also upgraded my WD to a Reese Dual Cam and found the new combination to be a easier tow. Congrats on the new trailer and I believe you will be fine.
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Congratulations on the new rig and welcome to the forum. I would suggest checking out the Roadmaster Active Suspension system if you have any tounge weight concerns. It is a nice system with an easy install and once you set it up the way you like, your done.
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You must have max pay and max tow by the sounds of your numbers. If that's the case I think you will be fine.
If you do find that the tail is wagging the dog once in awhile, then I would suggest you invest in a Hensley or Pro-Pride.
We have the max tow, but not the max payload. I didn't get the max payload because that required the longer bed and it wouldn't fit in the garage
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We have the max tow, but not the max payload. I didn't get the max payload because that required the longer bed and it wouldn't fit in the garage
Right. The "Max Payload" option on the SCREW is only on the longer bed. What gears do you have?
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