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Old 02-15-2014, 12:15 PM   #1
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Toyota or F-250?

I have been pulling my 2013 RB220 with a 2006 Toyota Tacoma with towing pkg, rated to pull 6500 lbs. The dry wt of the camper is 4860, so I figure it is around 6000 lbs when I pull it. We don't tend to pack heavily. The Taco has done a fine job so far, and I have pulled the camper to Tx and back (1000 miles each way), as well as down to Florida a couple of times, and to parks around Georgia. However, based on the age and miles (75k), and that I hope to retire in a couple of months, I have been toying with the idea of a new TV. Now, I really like the Tacoma, and am seriously considering a new Tundra, which is rated to pull a bit over 10,000 lbs. Also looked at specs on a Ford F-250, for about the same price and will tow about the same weight. I see lots of Fords, GMC, Chevy, Dodge as TVs here, but few if any Toyota's. Either truck that I am looking at will give me a lot more head room on pulling, although we don't plan to buy another camper.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:25 PM   #2
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If you don't plan to upgrade the trailer then the Tundra will do great. Even better when not towing compared a 250/2500 truck. Just don't expect great mpg with the Tundra.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:28 PM   #3
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What year F250? The only real difference between a 250 and 350 is rear spring weight. I'd recommend looking at 350's since they are more plentiful, but otherwise, it's the difference of an extra leaf and ride rite airbags and the like will make up the difference.
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You might not have any plans to buy a new trailer "now", but I know how that can change in a flash.

I don't know what a new Tundra price tag is.
My f150 is rated at 11,300#
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:44 PM   #5
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You might not have any plans to buy a new trailer "now", but I know how that can change in a flash.

I don't know what a new Tundra price tag is.
My f150 is rated at 11,300#
Once I retire I don't think the budget will allow a new trailer. ☺

I priced the F-150 with eco-boost and it was more than
the Tundra and the 250. I was interested in the eco-boost. The prices I found were in the low 30's.
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Rumors, are Toy will be pulling the Tundra from the NA market... Between lack luster sales and not being able to meet the new mileage standards it could be gone. Seeing the 2014 isn't much different than 2013 or the 2012 or the 2011 their could be truth behind it... However, the Silverado is also going to have some issues meeting the new standards as well, without going on a major diet.

The coming F150 is going to be interesting with it's aluminum body and insurance cost for repair as most body shops don't know how to handle alum...
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The Tundra will be around for a while it is even coming out with a diesel in 2016. If you go with Toyota buy the 5.7.
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dlwilliams48,
I did a lot of research recently and I'm currently awaiting my new 2014 Ram 1500, went with the outdoorsman trim level as it's tailored to folks who tow trailers, hunt, fish, ect... that's us. Since your Tacoma is a 6-er, you may consider a Ram 1500 with the new Pentastar 6 or upgrade to the 5.7L Hemi with the new 8 speed transmission (It's pretty darn smooth!!) Not sure what cab configuration you want but they are improving the 5.7L gas milage a little. Especially compared to the Tundra.
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I would caution you to consider that once you get into RVing more frequently in retirement, you may want to move up to a fiver. I'd go with the F-250 or something similar and then your TV won't be the limiting factor in your camping future.
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I would agree with a couple above, If your in the market for a new truck I would go bigger now then what you need in case in the future you do decide to go with a bigger RV.
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If you don't plan to upgrade the trailer then the Tundra will do great. Even better when not towing compared a 250/2500 truck. Just don't expect great mpg with the Tundra.
Hmmmmm.

Let's see, poor fuel mileage, better when not towing? I thought the idea from the OP was to get an adequate vehicle when towing?

I, however, would not be too concerned with you mileage, as a primary reason to buy new.

Maybe I'm just a Ford guy, but my Expedition with 311k miles towed an 8k boat pkg for years. My PSD now pulls our TT without issue with 80k.

Take care of them and they will take care of you.
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Hmmmmm.

Let's see, poor fuel mileage, better when not towing? I thought the idea from the OP was to get an adequate vehicle when towing?

I, however, would not be too concerned with you mileage, as a primary reason to buy new.

Maybe I'm just a Ford guy, but my Expedition with 311k miles towed an 8k boat pkg for years. My PSD now pulls our TT without issue with 80k.

Take care of them and they will take care of you.
The OP has a 6000# TT and an HD truck would be overkill. The Tundra will do just fine and ride much better when not towing. The Tundras are not famous for MPG compared to other 1/2 tons on the market.
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The OP has a 6000# TT and an HD truck would be overkill. The Tundra will do just fine and ride much better when not towing. The Tundras are not famous for MPG compared to other 1/2 tons on the market.
I don't know, I saw a guy last year with a new BP abt 28' pulled by a F450. And another going into a state park with a dually and a popup behind it. I asked him if he thought he had enough truck and he just laughed, said that's just what he had around at the time to pull it with when he wanted to go camping that weekend. Looked funny.
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HD truck would be overkill.
I don't think an HD truck is "overkill" when you aren't towing.
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The OP has a 6000# TT and an HD truck would be overkill. The Tundra will do just fine and ride much better when not towing. The Tundras are not famous for MPG compared to other 1/2 tons on the market.
Not sure what OP gvw is but you mention his weighs about 6k. I see your unit weights approx 6,300 lbs or so ulw.

However, I also see you tow with an F-250. Hmmmmm. Good choice.
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Not sure what OP gvw is but you mention his weighs about 6k. I see your unit weights approx 6,300 lbs or so ulw.

However, I also see you tow with an F-250. Hmmmmm. Good choice.
My TT weighs 7200# loaded with water ready to camp.. It has a scaled tongue weight of 1010# (xtra battery). I have two kids and with toys, bikes, genset, firewood, beer cooler etc in the box. I am no longer in 1/2 ton territory. OP is soon to be retired and has an UVW of 4860# and ready to camp is 6000#. So for the OP the Tundra would be a ..."Hmmmmm. good choice"
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I totally agree that you should look ahead to any future TT purchase when choosing a new TV. I just traded a 05 Ford f150 w/5.4L gas for a 11 Ford f250 6.7diesel. Yes the purchase was more than we had planned, but we had originally planned on a TT, but since we had "over specked" our vehicle, we are the happy owners of a 5er.
As far as brand choice, I chose a Ford because of the availability of dealerships and the current 100k warranty. Not knowing as much about the Toyota reliability and accessibility to repair facilities, it would be a benefit to choose what you are most comfortable with.
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Toyota just announced a Tundra TRD Pro. The Tundra will be around for a while.

I have a 2007 Tundra CrewMax 5.7L with the TRD package. LOVE IT. Use it to tow our 2013 Z-1. The gas mileage could be a little better but if I can control my lead foot it is fine. No issues whatsoever pulling it.
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I tow with my tundra 5.7 4x4 Crewmax , full skidplated with a lift kit and 33" tires it has a tow package with 4:30 auburn lsd rear end. It tows my 29SS with NO problems. It just likes the gas, 8 mpg while towing. Just my two cents. Good luck
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Thanks everyone for all the good comments and feedback. Still not sure, but right now the F150 eco-boost is near the top. I'm getting about 10mpg towing now and would like to continue to get at least that much. We'll see.
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