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Old 02-22-2011, 02:01 PM   #1
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I am purchasing a 2011 Crossroads Cruiser CF31QB. The dealer is giving me the following 2 hitch options. As far as price is concerned my portion of the negotiated cost is roughly the same for either option.

1. Reese 15K (non sliding)basic 5th wheel hitch and will swap the factory pin box with a SideWinder pinbox

2. Pullrite superglide 15K

From all the posts I have read, both will accomplish the same thing but has anyone used both and could give me some advice.

Any Cruiser owners out there use one or the other?

Will I be able to go 90 degrees with the Pullrite?

For current owners of either one is there something you dont like about your hitch setup?


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Old 02-23-2011, 12:49 AM   #2
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If cost is the same, here are at least some of the pros and cons



Superglide, - heavier hitch, more maintenance, + probably more people will recommend it at equal price

Sidewinder, + lighter hitch, faster response when backing up, pin box can be rotated out of the way when parked



With the new front cap on the 2011s, you could probably get by w/o either option. How do I know? Well 21 yrs towing fifth wheels with short bed trucks. First 13 yrs were with a fixed position hitch and the past 8 yrs with a slider hitch that hasn't been used in the past 6 yrs. And that is with the old style Cruiser front cap.
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I can't answer your question as far as a slider hitch because I have never owned one because I only buy LWB trucks. Now I can answer some questions about the Sidewinder since we have one on our trailer. With this hitch I can maneuver our 35' trailer better than I could our old 30' Cruiser. As Larry said you can back and turn much tighter and faster because your pivot point is under the pin not at the hitch. I can also hook and unhook at different angles if need be. I did not really need the Sidewinder as I have a LWB truck but the trailer came with it as part of a factory deal and I have to say so far I have really enjoyed it. Like I said, I know nothing about slider hitches other than what I have read or been told by other people but if I had to choose between the two I know what I would go with.
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The Superglide will put less bending stress on the trailer frame where the hitch is attached.



Sidewinder will add bending or twisting stress to that part of the frame when turned.
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What information is that based on?
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The Superglide will put less bending stress on the trailer frame where the hitch is attached.

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Sidewinder will add bending or twisting stress to that part of the frame when turned.


Please explain how you determined this? The Sidewinder is free to rotate a full 360 degrees at the pin box, as many times as you care to turn it. It puts as much twisting stress on the trailer frame as a standard ball mount puts on a TT frame w/o WD or sway control. Which is zero the way I see it.The Sidewinder does put more stress on the hitch since the wedge is against the sides of the swivel plate to keep the pin box from rotating around the king pin.
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The twisting to which I refer is simple physics.



If you move the load point from, lets say 18 inches in front of the attachment point to the frame to 18 inches at a 90 degree angle that offsets the load to the side. If the pin weight is 1000 lbs that makes a moment about the point of attachment of 18 X 1000# which equals 18000 inch lbs of torque on the attachment point.



Hold your arm straight out and have the DW push up or down on your hand. Now bend your elbow 90 degrees and repeat. Can your shoulder tell the difference? Same thing on the frame.



Iv'e been wrong before so if you don't agree you are entitled to your opinion and I wll listen to all rebutals.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:34 AM   #8
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I can understand that there would be some additional stress when you are at angles but the fact that several mfg's are offering the sidewinder as an option to come preinstalled from the factory tells me that it is within an acceptable level.

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Well I am not going to argue or debatephysics or anything else. I know ours was installed by Lippert when the frame was built with no additional bracing to the frame than any other PP. Now if they felt like it was not going to cause any additional stress or strain on the frame why should I be worried about it when they would have to have covered any frame damage from it. We have had ours for right at 3 years now and it doesn't seem to be doing any damage to the trailer that I can tell. So say what you will but we are happy with ours and I would buy another one.



Josh, if you get that new trailer in time we would love to have you join us at the Texas Rally in Kerrville at the end of March. There will be a lot of Crossroads owners there more than willing to answer any questions you might have.
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Thanks Keith,



We get our trailer on 3/5, however my daughter has a cheer competition the same weekend as the Rally so we will not be able to make it.



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