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06-18-2020, 09:59 AM
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If you compare the original to the new one, the connecting holes are almost at the same angle and position.
In the picture, the center hole is actually at it's highest position, if you lower it, they holes are almost exact to the original.
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06-18-2020, 10:39 AM
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If you draw a straight line between shackle pivots on equalizer and measure straight up to pivot bolt, I bet it’s over an inch difference. I maybe have to stop comparing with my 13 ZT260BH with 3500lb axles. Spring length may be different and my springs are mounted in the lower hole from factory. When I look at spring mount brackets at axle on this setup they lean in towards each other. Mine have an ever so slight lean outwards. Correct me if I’m wrong but trailer is sitting as it should even though it’s on floor jacks.
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06-18-2020, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 660catman
Makes sense. I still can’t get over the fact the shackles are at an extreme angle compared to what mine are. Mine are halfway from these to being straight up. I wonder what angle was before replacement?
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Which picture are you refering to, top or bottom?
Top is post #8 with wheels moumted
Bottom is post #13, axles are not in the ride height position 64757.jpg
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06-18-2020, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 4kids2dogs&RV
Which picture are you refering to, top or bottom?
Top is post #8 with wheels moumted
Bottom is post #13, axles are not in the ride height position Attachment 4342
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Top picture looks ok. Were the axles hanging even though they were supported with floor jacks? I thought full weight of trailer was still on them. All looks good now.
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06-18-2020, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mark5w
If you compare the original to the new one, the connecting holes are almost at the same angle and position.
In the picture, the center hole is actually at it's highest position, if you lower it, they holes are almost exact to the original.
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Mark, i cant go higer or lower, there is only 1 bolt hole in my center hanger.
Heres an after and before...shackles appear to be almost in the same position. 64773.jpg
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06-18-2020, 08:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 660catman
Top picture looks ok. Were the axles hanging even though they were supported with floor jacks? I thought full weight of trailer was still on them. All looks good now.
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Yes, they were low, although still supported by the jacks
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06-18-2020, 09:23 PM
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My 2 cents.
If you draw a line on the old equalizer straight across the bolt holes then measure from that line up to the center hole the Morryde is taller. If you left the springs in the upper holes the springs would be angled down toward the equalizer. So by using the lower holes the springs are at the same plane as with the old equalizer. One benefit is raising the camper. The negative is it raised the camper. Just how you look at it.
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06-18-2020, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dagst1
My 2 cents.
If you draw a line on the old equalizer straight across the bolt holes then measure from that line up to the center hole the Morryde is taller. If you left the springs in the upper holes the springs would be angled down toward the equalizer. So by using the lower holes the springs are at the same plane as with the old equalizer. One benefit is raising the camper. The negative is it raised the camper. Just how you look at it.
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Thanks your comment Dagst. Thats exactly where i was at when trying to use the upper holes at first. It was at such an angle, there was no way I was getting the rear spring lined up with the upper hole.
I'm not too concerned with the additional height, its less than 2 inches and im sure once i take her down the road things may settle a bit. My only concern is the strength of the feont & rear leaf spring hangers now that I'm using the lower hole vs the upper holes. More likely to bend sideways while making a turn. Unfortunately, im not a welder.
I plan to take her for a bath this weekend at the Blue Beacon here. All the construction arou d there should give me a good idea on how she'll do.
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06-19-2020, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 4kids2dogs&RV
Davisk, thanks for the info. I had looked over your thread previously, kind of what made me ask the question.
You guys also used the lower holes on the springs, but did your equalizer hanger have 1 hole or 2? Not sure why mine only has 1.
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You can see in the second photo of the first post in that link that mine only has one hole for the equalizer. The mounts for the spring shackles have 2 holes.
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06-19-2020, 12:55 PM
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There may be a reason based on camper / axle setup. Mine ZT260BH has 1 equalizer hole, 2 spring holes and camper came in lower hole from factory. Many have asked can you drop springs.
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07-03-2020, 08:22 AM
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Ok, finally found some time to get out to grease my wet bolts and found a problem.
A couple of the bolts with splines are not fully seated into the holes on the hangers.
Any ideas how to get them to seat without taking a sledge hammer to them? 20200703_091059.jpg
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07-03-2020, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 4kids2dogs&RV
Ok, finally found some time to get out to grease my wet bolts and found a problem.
A couple of the bolts with splines are not fully seated into the holes on the hangers.
Any ideas how to get them to seat without taking a sledge hammer to them? Attachment 4373
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Yes, take grease zero off,get a big c clamp and a deep socket that is bigger than nut on back. Put socket on back over nut and use clamp to push bolt head evenly on shackle.
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07-03-2020, 09:42 AM
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Thanks, I'll give that a try, hopefully the zerks are screw in and not pressed
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07-03-2020, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4kids2dogs&RV
Ok, finally found some time to get out to grease my wet bolts and found a problem.
A couple of the bolts with splines are not fully seated into the holes on the hangers.
Any ideas how to get them to seat without taking a sledge hammer to them? Attachment 4373
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Are you missing a washer under the bolt head that is allowing the bolt to extend too far? If you push the bolt back the bolt head won't be flush. What do the other bolts look like?
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07-03-2020, 12:38 PM
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No washer is required for the bolt head. The head should be flush. Hopefully, the C clamp will work. The zerks are screw in and mine were aluminum. I changed them out to steel. Some were difficult to remove, they snapped off and had to use a easy out to remove it.
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07-03-2020, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mark5w
No washer is required for the bolt head. The head should be flush. Hopefully, the C clamp will work. The zerks are screw in and mine were aluminum. I changed them out to steel. Some were difficult to remove, they snapped off and had to use a easy out to remove it.
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As Mark said, no washer required.
Thanks for the info on the aluminium fittings, I'll grab some steel ones this evening.
Plan to try again in the morning, heat is kickin here, 97 today!
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07-03-2020, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 4kids2dogs&RV
As Mark said, no washer required.
Thanks for the info on the aluminium fittings, I'll grab some steel ones this evening.
Plan to try again in the morning, heat is kickin here, 97 today!
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I guess I'm missing something, but if you push the bolt back with the C clamp the head will no longer be flush, correct?
I feel the heat too, we're in the Dallas
area.
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07-03-2020, 05:02 PM
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Update, zerks are sticking to a magnet so not aluminum. I guess Morryde upgraded them.
BTW according to a thread on another forum, according to Morryde the zerk size is M6x1.0
So now I have spares.
Thanks Llyod, we'll find out this weekend.
Russ, the head must be flush against the hanger, I need to push the bolt all the way in, about another 1/8" or so.
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07-03-2020, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4kids2dogs&RV
Update, zerks are sticking to a magnet so not aluminum. I guess Morryde upgraded them.
BTW according to a thread on another forum, according to Morryde the zerk size is M6x1.0
So now I have spares.
Thanks Llyod, we'll find out this weekend.
Russ, the head must be flush against the hanger, I need to push the bolt all the way in, about another 1/8" or so.
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My mistake I didn't realize that was the the head that the zerk was in. Makes sense now.
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