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02-16-2018, 09:48 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: WA
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Low 20's coming
In a day or so we are going to experience some temps in the low 20's and I've already filled the 5er with a load of water. So I'm wondering if dumping the hot water tank and draining the outside shower will suffice a couple nights of freezing temps? I'll be running two electric heaters with cupboard doors open to keep the inside toasty......
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02-16-2018, 09:56 PM
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Full Time Camper
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DFW, TexUS
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Electric heaters do minimal help...
inside water would be less of a concern to me than the water lines outside...if it doesn't get above freezing for a couple of days...
put a incandescent 75w light in your "water closet" and next to your filter...
also open cabinets inside and turn your furnace on and set it to like 45 degrees... will use less electricity and protect you better... propane is a LOT cheaper than replacing water lines and pumps and etc....
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02-16-2018, 10:30 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: WA
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Thanks johnboytoo, just as soon run the electrics, had it up to 75 in there today with both running, I'll try the lightbulb under the sink where the pump and water are. To my knowledge the only outside water lines are the ones going to the outside shower...
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02-16-2018, 11:08 PM
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Full Time Camper
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Location: Nv
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I am having similar temps, but not as low. Yesterday I emptied the fresh water and water heater, drained the low points, and blew 20 PSI air through the lines while opening faucets, inside and outside shower. Didn’t have to do the black tank flush because I haven’t used it since last time I blew lines. Already had rv antifreeze in he traps. I was expecting to go on a trip and it cancelled. Don’t have another planned for at least a few weeks. It took less than an hour.
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02-16-2018, 11:34 PM
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Weekend Camper
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Thanks Steve7, just trying to not dump all the water, I'll do what you did when I do a full winterization, but I'm leaving on our little trip next Thur so thats why the question....
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02-17-2018, 06:36 AM
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Site Team
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My guess would be, there are water lines in the front compartment under the bath and bed. You might want to consider hanging a light bulb in there. Just make sure it's not touching anything.
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02-17-2018, 08:22 AM
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Seasonal Camper
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Saskatchewan
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I have to agree with taking the few minutes it takes to do a quick winterizing. Why gamble or take the risk of freezing/cracking open some hard to repair, stand on your head location, 3 cent fitting. Spend a few dollars in advance, and use that free time doing something other than repairing it. It's just not worth the gamble...
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02-17-2018, 01:30 PM
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Weekend Camper
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Location: WA
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Thanks Aceallenk, yes probably will go ahead & drop the tank & winterize.....
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02-17-2018, 10:34 PM
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Full Time Camper
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
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Dual
If it were me I think I would dump the water and blow out the water lines...Because with my luck it would be much more time and trouble to replace or repair water lines...IMHO...
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02-18-2018, 02:32 PM
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Weekend Camper
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Location: WA
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Thanks sleepyT, done......
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02-18-2018, 09:18 PM
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Full Time Camper
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Location: N.C. Mountains
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I agree. I always try to be a cautious as possible. If I knew it was going to drop in the 20’s I would dump the water and winterize. The cost of two jugs of RV antifreeze compared to the cost of a burst pipe behind a wall isn’t even close. I’ve done the same thing; as far as getting ready for a trip and have to rewinterize again. Not fun but sometimes; “A mans gotta do, what a mans gotta do.” (Or a woman).
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02-18-2018, 11:31 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: WA
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Thanks PapaT, took care of it yesterday and put the camp out off for a couple weeks until things warm up around here....
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04-05-2018, 09:38 PM
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Full Time Camper
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WI
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Cold weather camp @ 8ºf:
We have a Crossroads Cruiser 5th wheel RV with the Upgraded Insulation Package and have not frozen up yet. We camped in below freezing temperatures for a month each spring and again each fall where night time temperatures often fall to 10º F.
· ELECTRIC HEATER with FURNACE: We employ an 800 watt Lasko Space Heater that cannot keep up so the propane furnace has to cycle and that does keep the tanks and under belly gate valves from freezing.
· BASEMENT HEATER: I do place a temperature controlled 200 watt heater in the 5th wheel’s basement along with an indoor outdoor thermometer. The I/O thermometer always reads 40-45º and that is what it is set for.
· WATER HEATER: The water heater is left ON full time. The water heater is centrally located near most of the plumbing and it keeps that area from freezing. Imagine the cost of replacing a frozen water heater. Leave it ON.
· WATER SYSTEM FLOWS CONTINUOUSLY: The Campground demands that the water supply be kept at a small trickle to keep their entire system from freezing. (Camp is mountainside at 8,000’ ASL. It’s like living on a rock.) So, we open the gray tank gate valve and turn the kitchen faucet on to a small trickle. This system has worked great for 8 years.
· MOISTURE: Moisture control at these temperatures is a full time job. Any activity that produces steam must be vented. All rooftop vents are always cracked open.
Compact but powerful Lasko: http://www.laskoproducts.com/oscillating-ceramic-heater-model-5409/
Basement Heater: http://www.laskoproducts.com/myheat%e2%84%a2-personal-heater-model-100/
Temperature Controller: https://shop.luxproducts.com/product...nt=44638828117
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04-06-2018, 07:48 AM
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Site Team
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04-06-2018, 07:57 AM
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Full Time Camper
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd
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Lloyd, Try this one out,
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Lasko-200-W...AaAnEjEALw_wcB
unfortunately it isn't directly from the Lasko website. I do like their heaters. Of course the basement heater as well as the electric heater in the RV are both controller with the LUX WIN 200.
With highest regards from Kamper Dave!
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04-06-2018, 08:08 AM
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Full Time Camper
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd
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Lloyd, I forgot to paste in the new link. Try it again. I just did an edit. Thanx
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04-06-2018, 08:10 AM
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Site Team
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That works Dave.
Thanks
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