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06-09-2016, 11:43 AM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Missouri
Posts: 71
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Anyone else have a 2011 Zinger with rotted floor spot??
I recently picked up a nice 2011 Crossroads Zinger 19RDS TT. Before I bought it I walked around on the floor checking for any soft spots, checked the inside and outside of all the walls, looked in every storage area and checked for signs of water, inspected the roof for any bad spots, checked all of the caulked joints and seals on the outside of the trailer…..and aside from a little waviness of the front outer “hung wall” on the nose of the trailer, everything looked great! The previous owners took really good care of it ….and never really used it much.
Fast forward to last night…..I pulled out the rear bench/couch in order for my wife to get to some areas that she wanted to paint. And what do I find? The rear corner of the TT that was covered by the bench, was spongy…and after cutting out a piece of linoleum to inspect, is completely rotted out. At least it’s in a spot I can easily get to in order to make the repair. It should be an easy fix, I’ve done this type of work before.
There are two things that boggle my mind……1.) Where did this water come from? All the seals look great, the roof looks great, no delamination of the fiberglass walls on the outside of the trailer, and there is nothing in that area on the outside of the TT that would lead me to think water was getting in. 2.) This thing is only 5 years old……are these TT’s really put together so badly that only after 5 years, they leak bad enough to have a part of the floor rotted out!! I can’t imagine what I would have been in for if I would have bought a TT that was 10-15 years old.
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06-09-2016, 03:21 PM
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Full Time Camper
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: ca
Posts: 574
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Of water is getting in and not dried in Less than a year the wood will be rotten. They may have repaired the trailer where the water came in but did not repair the problems it caused
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06-09-2016, 05:57 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: PA
Posts: 5,723
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One of the best places for water to leak is around the running lights and scare lights that are on the RV. I removed the lights, found a 1" hole for a 1/8" wire. I filled the hole in around the wire, reinstalled the light and caulked around the top and sides of the lights.
The other point is the seams on the roof and any other object that has sealant around it. For seams I use Eternabond tape, self leveling caulk for the rest.
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Lehighton, Pennsylvania
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Member - "Northeast Adventures RV Rally Group" & "Mason-Dixon Bunch"
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06-09-2016, 05:59 PM
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Family Vacation Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 200
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Check your clearance lights. I had an intermittent leak in a front storage compartment. Drove me crazy. Took off the side marker, and it was not sealed behind. The water was running along the siding seam and landing by the door frame for the storage area.
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06-09-2016, 07:43 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Missouri
Posts: 71
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Well, I pulled out everything in the rear of the trailer....and started pulling up the linoleum to see how bad the floor really was. The only soft spot was in the corner.....but the more linoleum I pulled up....the more bad floor I found. Pretty much the entire 4x8 sheet of plywood at the rear of the camper needs replaced. The insulation was soaking wet....I'm sure that didn't help things.
I was able to get the entire section of plywood out, now I'm going to put a fan on it to let it dry out...and then start cleaning up all of the wood around the edges. Install my new bracing, new insulation, new resin coated plywood piece, and then new vinyl flooring on top.
I still wasn't able to find any areas on the trailer were water could have gotten in. Once I get everything cleaned up and dry....I'm going to have my wife start spraying up under the wheel wells, and on every window, light, and sealed up place on the outside of the trailer with a garden hose...and I'm going to stay inside with a flashlight and see if I can see any water getting in anywhere. If it all check out..time for the new floor.
Here are some pics......I never would have though that I was getting into this when I bought this 2011 "well taken care of" trailer.
Would the gaps in the seals on the outside windows let water in? Or does it just run out of the little drain holes on the bottom of the window frame?
The caulk around the outside of the window frame looks very good.
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06-09-2016, 07:48 PM
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Seasonal Camper
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Tn
Posts: 384
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Are the walls wet?
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06-09-2016, 08:03 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Missouri
Posts: 71
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Nope...the walls are all solid..inside and out.
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06-09-2016, 08:38 PM
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Seasonal Camper
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Tn
Posts: 384
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Is that the rear of the trailer? Is there a faucet or drain near by? Could something have leaked from underneath and it wicked up?
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06-09-2016, 09:12 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Missouri
Posts: 71
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Yes, its the very rear of the trailer. It might be coming from the windows in the back....but I actually think that it might be coming from where the plastic wheel wells come through the floor.....I will know after inlet everything dry out really good, and then start spraying the outside and under the wheel wells of the camper with a hose.
If it is coming from the wheel wells...that would explain why the walls are not wet.....the water probably comes in through the bottom..soaks the insulation...and just sits there.
I got up under the camper tonight to get a better look at everything.....to say these campers are put together as fast, cheap, and sloppy as possible would be an understatement.
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06-10-2016, 08:24 AM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Missouri
Posts: 71
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So are those gaps in the black rubber window frame seals a concern, or is that just for cosmetics? I'm assuming that when water gets in those seals, it just runs out of the window frame drain holes?
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06-10-2016, 10:18 AM
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Seasonal Camper
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Tn
Posts: 384
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Not sure on the window gaps.
Can you see day light through the rear of the camper?
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06-10-2016, 10:38 AM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Missouri
Posts: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burgy
Not sure on the window gaps.
Can you see day light through the rear of the camper?
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Nope, I haven't been able to find any spots where daylight is coming through. Hopefully I will find something when I hit the trailer with a water hose.
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06-13-2016, 08:17 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Missouri
Posts: 71
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06-14-2016, 03:50 AM
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Seasonal Camper
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MA
Posts: 315
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I have found on my Zinger, that where the slide rams come through the frame over the wheels is a good place for water to get inside the membrane. Why don't these things have wheel wells or tubs to prevent this. I have already had to seal a electrical box just rear of the wheels that was filling with water when I drove in the rain.
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06-14-2016, 09:58 AM
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Gone Traveling
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,392
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Nice job! Had to do the same several years ago, not much room in them to work!!
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05-31-2020, 05:25 PM
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Weekend Camper
Join Date: May 2011
Location:
Posts: 47
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I have the same year and model as you. I have found 2 soft spots. One is near the rear of the trailer in line with the rear window. And I was wondering why the table was wobbling. There is a soft spot where the leg post rings' screws became lose. I wonder how much it would cost to have a RV repair shop fix it.
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