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Old 08-15-2013, 02:44 AM   #21
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Does this mean that it now has the two year warranty???????????????????????/
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:59 AM   #22
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This is better than the soap operas.... Stay tuned as the drama continues.

I always considered my Cruisers as top of the line, my affordable line anyway.
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:22 AM   #23
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Old 08-15-2013, 04:44 AM   #24
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I am by no means knocking the Cruiser as we use to own one and it was the best unit we ever owned but if that is now their top of the line unit I find it hard to believe they are going to be able to compete with the big boys.
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:45 AM   #25
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I don't think a Thor product will ever compete with the big boys. Not thatsome of their products are not agood value but even the best of theRedwoods will not compete with something like this.

http://www.tetonhomes.com/index.htm

This is a true full timers unit and from what I have seen, theseare top quality in and out.
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:08 AM   #26
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Scott, I am researching full time units for us right now and the top three on my list are non-Thor products. Unfortunately I do not have enough truck to pull a Teton and my wife would have to pickup another job after we retire to help pay for it.
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:23 AM   #27
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First you might have a problem finding a new Teton since they went out of business several years ago. Second, my brother in law has a Teton (2006?) and he has had problems just like bewitch any other unit.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:25 AM   #28
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Maybe we will hear some more interesting news in the next few days.........

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Old 08-20-2013, 01:14 PM   #29
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I think maybe someone has made a decision.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:32 PM   #30
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CEO ousting usually is related to either not making sales targets or not containing costs ( lower margins). Spring sales must have been soft.

I know my dealer is not happy with the rep team they have at CR.

All the manufacturers are making cheap now. I had a Jayco and my dealer swore by them. Now hes carrrying KZ because Jayco's price point is no longer competitive.

IMO, the industry is faced with the making trailers lighter as fuel costs have crept up the past several years. lighter means lighter materials, lighter materials means cheap. Cheap means things break.



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Old 08-20-2013, 05:09 PM   #31
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I seem to remember back when Thor took over crossroads and all the management changes happened many wondered if crossroads would go the way of carriage. All of this makes one wonder could that really be a possibility?
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:21 PM   #32
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More interesting news. Looks like according to the Redwood web site that Crossroads has lost the Rushmore and it now will be built under the Redwood name. Is this because Crossroads cannot build it without all the quality issues? So that means the Cruiser is now Crossroads top of the line? Whats next?

http://redwoodrvfamily.com/
My paper work says Crossroads Redwood, We are all Crossroads and I gothroughthem to schedule my warranty work and maintenance. I contact Bill Hodges or Leonard on everything I have done. We are all dealing with one name CROSSROADS .
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Word on the street is Tom Montague was dismissed yesterday. That will about take care of Carriage for a while. Will there be more, only time will tell.....
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:58 PM   #34
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Hmmm one promise too many broken?????????????????????????
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ok, so let me get this straight. Montague and others came to Thor after leaving Carriagewhen Carriage had toshut the doors? Now Thor has let them go? The old Carriage is now Lifestyles and they are building a quality rig?

If this is the case, seems those individuals may want to look into a new line of work.
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Montaque put himself out there with the "12 point promise". That was a marketing failure. So he is the sacraficial lamb. What is next?
It has been reported that Lifestyles is a group of former employees. From the reports these are the people who made a great Carriage product not the management . They went to the Thor family and are now disappearing.
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The way their product has gone down hill the last few years

In my opinion, it's about time they started doing a good house cleaning there. The buck stops at the top as far as I'm concerned.
Lets all hope they get their s**t mess cleaned up, turned around, and start producing a quality product again.

Al, I don't think ole Tom was a sacrificial lamb. I think he was one dumb s**t and it finally caught up with him.

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Lloyd, you and I are a lot alike. We seem to have a hard time expressing our real feelings sometimes.....
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You two always have to sugar coat it. !!
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Funny Keith. In all this mess a little humor is a good thing.
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