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Old 04-17-2021, 06:50 PM   #21
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Then you should be extremely happy to know I drove Ford pickups, 1/2, 3,4 & 1 tons, for over 30 years at work!
Which is why I bought GMs....

That could very well be, but you quit them long before these good ones hit the market.
So you ended up a day late and a dollar short.
It seems some times a guy just can't win.
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Old 04-17-2021, 07:04 PM   #22
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That could very well be, but you quit them long before these good ones hit the market.
So you ended up a day late and a dollar short.
It seems some times a guy just can't win.

Iíve been a GM man for a while but I have looked into the F250ís with the 6.2 gas in them. Before you know it youíre comparing gas vs diesel and have doubts on both after reading many threads in forums about the proís and conís of each. Iím at that point now. It definitely keeps you up at night!
Everyoneís needs are different and figuring out what you need / want can be frustrating.
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Old 04-18-2021, 05:00 PM   #23
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I am not weight police, however I've been towing TT's since 1986. Had Chauffeurs license also - driven just about everything, some were tracked way back in the early 70's in very unforgiving terrain with some pratfalls. No longer though - due to Laws, Tests, Endorsements and the at the end of the day not worth the headache to maintain - same as my pilots license. Please don't forget that final drive ratio includes the transmission multiplier, the rear axle is only one half of what the drive wheels see. Torque is what you need to tow - not horsepower. Just my 2 cents!
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Old 04-22-2021, 04:54 PM   #24
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Dear Weight Police,
I have found your advice tremendously helpful, personally. Towing my TT that runs about 5k lbs plus beer and makeup, I have not concerned myself towing with my 7.3 dinosaur. I have heard your recommendation to read the sticker on the truck to know what you can or cannot do.

So, attached is my sticker, which is clear as mud. I have no clue what I can legally or safely tow. Overweight in a wreck can get your insurance to deny coverage. Iím sure I can tow a lot. I met a guy with an 02 F250 bone stock with a 13,700 lb trailer + junk.

I weigh 7250 at the scales with just my truck and svelte self. These sticker numbers are VERY confusing. Can you folks sort this out? We are considering selling our rig for a fiver. I know better than to listen to a salesman (sorry if one of you guys is one). I appreciate the assistance.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:57 PM   #25
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Dear Weight Police,
I have found your advice tremendously helpful, personally. Towing my TT that runs about 5k lbs plus beer and makeup, I have not concerned myself towing with my 7.3 dinosaur. I have heard your recommendation to read the sticker on the truck to know what you can or cannot do.

So, attached is my sticker, which is clear as mud. I have no clue what I can legally or safely tow. Overweight in a wreck can get your insurance to deny coverage. Iím sure I can tow a lot. I met a guy with an 02 F250 bone stock with a 13,700 lb trailer + junk.

I weigh 7250 at the scales with just my truck and svelte self. These sticker numbers are VERY confusing. Can you folks sort this out? We are considering selling our rig for a fiver. I know better than to listen to a salesman (sorry if one of you guys is one). I appreciate the assistance.

The max your truck can weigh with everyone and their gear is there including whatís in the box is 8800 lbs.
the other two numbers is what each axle max weight on them can be. You weighed your truck so max payload is 1550 lbs. Not a lot for a super duty?
Hitch weight is also included in payload numbers too. If you buy a fiver with a pin weight of 1400 lbs, youíre done for adding anything else in the truck if you only weigh 150 lbs!
Thereís also the other number of GCVWR where truck and towed vehicle weight combined cannot exceed this amount. These are noted in your ownerís manuals. Truck configuration determines those numbers.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:39 PM   #26
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According to the 2002 FORD BODY BUILDER LAYOUT BOOK maximum payload on that truck is anywhere from 4000 -4500 lbs.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:05 PM   #27
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According to the 2002 FORD BODY BUILDER LAYOUT BOOK maximum payload on that truck is anywhere from 4000 -4500 lbs.

Thatís why I had a question mark after saying not a lot for a super duty. But he weighed his truck and stickers donít lie on the other numbers.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:34 PM   #28
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I thought you use the tire and loading information sticker for CCC.

https://images.app.goo.gl/MVkJajpAFJXyxG1C6
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Old 04-22-2021, 09:12 PM   #29
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I thought you use the tire and loading information sticker for CCC.

https://images.app.goo.gl/MVkJajpAFJXyxG1C6

You thought correctly. That sticker shows payload from factory without add-ons. Itís the GVWR less what vehicle actually weighs at factory.
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1440 lbs? That’s not much more than you can put in a Toyota Tacoma.
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:27 AM   #31
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I went out and got the Owners Guide. Attached is the chart for towing capacity. I DO have a 7.3 diesel in a 2003 F-250 with a crew cab and 4x4 with automatic.

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I went out and got the Owners Guide. Attached is the chart for towing capacity. I DO have a 7.3 diesel in a 2003 F-250 with a crew cab and 4x4 with automatic.

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Numbers donít lie but youíre still hooped when it comes to payload in your truck. That 8800 seems way low compared to newer trucks. FYI, Iím looking at a 2021 F250 CC SB with GVW of 9900 and payload of 3438 lbs. albeit itís a gas 6.2. GCVWR is 19,500. 3.73 diff.
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Old 04-23-2021, 10:44 AM   #33
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The new trucks are miles ahead of the older models in capabilities. My budget won’t allow that.

I don’t know if you noticed in my pic, but my owners manual for MY truck doesn’t list a 7.3 engine.

After seeing the incorrect print in the manual, I don’t know what to believe. I’m thinking of contacting State Farm and find out what towing weight THEY will insure with my truck.
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I wouldn't call the insurance company. That will alert them to you.

I'd go to the Ford garage.
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Got this from a ford booklet
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Agreed, donít call insurance company. Brochures are not accurate for payload capacities. These are specific to whatever RPO codes are installed. An XL gas model will be lighter than a Lariat diesel model in the same configuration. Tow ratings obviously change. It seems all trucks have the 8800 lb max.
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It's the same numbers in the Official Ford Builders book. I got the website from my Ford service garage.

I believe that the sticker on his truck is incorrect.
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It's the same numbers in the Official Ford Builders book. I got the website from my Ford service garage.

I believe that the sticker on his truck is incorrect.

How can it be incorrect when the 8800 matches the Ford book. What doesnít match is the actual weight of the truck vs the book weight. Again, options added at production determine actual payload capacity. And if 800 pounds of aftermarket accessories are added after, your payload drops by 800 lbs. Thereís usually another sticker with payload number.
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Front and rear weigh don't match.
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Front and rear weigh don't match.

Those are max numbers that axles can take. For example, my 2013 Silverado 1500 axles GAWR ratings are 3950 each. GVWR of truck is 7000. Scaled weight on axles is 3217 front and 2450 rear. Hitched weight on axles is 3234 front and 3388 rear.
New F250 Iím looking at is rated 4800 front and 6340 rear. GVWR is 9900.
Iím looking to upgrade to a 5th wheel.
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