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07-18-2011, 12:00 PM
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We left the Osceola County fairgrounds today after a week at the Evart, Michigan Dulcimer festival. When we tried to dump the black water tank it stopped flowing after a very short time. I tried back flushing the tank by holding the dump hose higher than the tank and running water into it. That didn't work! We went for a drive and intentionally drove erratically to agitate the tank. That didn't work! We poured ice into the tank via the toilet and then drove around erratically. That didn't work! We finally got the tank dumped but it was a real chore and no one thing was the obvious solution. I have to admit that I do not like single ply TP, so that might have been the problem. Suggestions welcome!!!
Also, one of the gray water valves didn't push back in as far as it was originally. It seems to shut off that tank, so why doesn't it push back in to it's original position?
Thanks,
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07-18-2011, 12:15 PM
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Well we have had the same problem as have friends of ours. Our solution is this. We went to Walmart and purchased a DIAPER GENIE. It is used for well; the obvious to put diapers in. We went to dollar store and purchased the 50 pack of small pink bags. We no longer put toliet paper in the toliet. We place it in the little bags; tie them up and place them down the DIAPER GENIE. Just empty the DIAPER GENIE bag after each camping trip. No smell and I have never had another clog up. Knock on wood. Try WD-40 on the other valve or have it checked.Edited by: Deputydog
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07-18-2011, 12:24 PM
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You have to make sure you use a LOT of water every time you flush. Also make sure you start with a couple of gallons in the tank before you use it. Without enough water the paper will not break down. When you dump, put in a couple of gallons of water in right away, this prevents any solids left behind from hardening.
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07-18-2011, 01:24 PM
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we dont put anything in the comode thathasent passed thru us first,havent in are last 3 campers
works well for us,but we are going to get one of those diaper things,thanks deputy dawg
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Bettie and Mark
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07-18-2011, 01:24 PM
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We use Scotts extra soft single ply. Never had a problem. Like others have said, after you dump put a couple of gallons of water in and some type of chemical. We use the Oxy Chem packets from Walmart and they seem to work well.
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Bradley, Il
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07-18-2011, 01:50 PM
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What is a "gini"?
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2013 Itasca Sunstar 35F, 2013 Ford C Max toad.
170 nights in 2013
132 in 2014
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07-18-2011, 02:32 PM
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Genie !
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07-18-2011, 02:38 PM
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DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE,
DIAPER GENIE............ECT.
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07-18-2011, 04:00 PM
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Water!
Flush liberally every time you use TP. If you're not already using digester, you might try that as well. But use more water no matter what else you do.
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07-18-2011, 09:34 PM
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Since you have the newer model 5vr, I believe that they have a remote panel for the operating the tank dump valves. If that is the case it very possible that you have pulled out the cable that opens and closes the gate valve. If that's the case, I would suggest that you take the trailer back to the dealer and have them resolve the problem.
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Helen & George VE3INB and Max (Bichon Frise)
2006 Silverado 2500HD D/A,
2006 Cruiser CF30SK
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07-18-2011, 11:35 PM
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Location: Indiana
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I'm with George on this one. Take it back and have the valves fixed, the dumping process is not that difficult and no way would i go the route of a diaper genie. We got one those with our youngest child. Nice idea but in the end if you fill it full of stuff that stinks it will start to stink. And as the others have said, WATER!!!! Every time the toilet is flushed we refill the bowl with water and send it down as a chaser. Mix that with a bottle of the blue stuff from wally world and the tank empties nicely.
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07-19-2011, 09:57 AM
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Did you use the flush system????
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Frank and Janet Henn
2000 Monoco Lapalma
being pushed by a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Traveling with Rainbow the wonder dog and now with Sunshine the rescue Schnauzer.
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07-19-2011, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CygnusSailor
We left the Osceola County fairgrounds today after a week at the Evart, Michigan Dulcimer festival. When we tried to dump the black water tank it stopped flowing after a very short time. I tried back flushing the tank by holding the dump hose higher than the tank and running water into it. That didn't work! We went for a drive and intentionally drove erratically to agitate the tank. That didn't work! We poured ice into the tank via the toilet and then drove around erratically. That didn't work! We finally got the tank dumped but it was a real chore and no one thing was the obvious solution. I have to admit that I do not like single ply TP, so that might have been the problem. Suggestions welcome!!!
Also, one of the gray water valves didn't push back in as far as it was originally. It seems to shut off that tank, so why doesn't it push back in to it's original position?
Thanks,
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Regarding your first problem you apparently have something blocking the black tank drain pipe or your valve is not opening. The only way to determine if the valve is not opening, possibly due to the remote cable coming loose or a defective valve, is to drop the underbelly cover and examine the valve.
I would think if the drain pipe is completely blocked, probably closing the valve, then filling the tank completely full, then draining (maybe a couple of times) should dislodge the blockage. Try this first before going into the valve. There is also the possibility of using a small sewer snake to break up the congestion. Go in from the bayonet connection all the way up to the valve. Again, have tank full of water and watch your face if you dislodge the blockage!
On the second problem, I've had the same problem on my black tank. The valve doesn't close the last 1/2" because there is some debris in the valve. Again, close the valve, fill tank full, open valve and dump. You will usually wash the debris out of the small channel the valve gate seats into.
Good luck!!
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