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Old 07-24-2009, 12:07 AM   #1
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I just got back from the dealer getting my oil changed. They had a special to fill my tires with nitrogen, $39.00. Has anyone had any experience with this or comment?











UPDATE: The decision is made. I am saving the $39.00 for the flea market in Shipshewana.Edited by: dja29RK
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Why would you put nitrogen in your tires?
Whats the benefit or purpose for it?


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Old 07-24-2009, 12:55 AM   #3
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For the most part it is a ripoff. There are some benefits ie: less moisture inside the tire, they may hold the proper pressure better etc. Aircraft and large machinery use it due to the harsher working environments and a improved anti-explosion benefits. Is it worth 40.00? I don't think so. IMHO.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:03 AM   #4
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All CrossRoads trailers in the 2009 and 2010 model year come with Nitrogen-filled tires.

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Old 07-24-2009, 04:19 AM   #5
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Costco does it for free with their tires. They claim, less loss of pressure, better mileage, and cooler running tires.
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Old 07-24-2009, 05:41 AM   #6
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The other benefit claimed by nitrogen filling is lesspossibility of rust, which of course only applies to steel rims. Nitrogen is an inert gas and the lack of oxygen means oxidation (rusting) cannot take place.



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Old 07-24-2009, 08:57 AM   #7
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All CrossRoads trailers in the 2009 and 2010 model year come with Nitrogen-filled tires.
If this were true wouldn't the valve caps be green?I have a 09 and don't have green valve caps.I have also added air to bring my tires up to rated pressure, so that defeated the nitrogen value and reasoning.One reason I wouldn't want nitrogen is ,there aren't any self service places and there isn't a portable pump I can carry if needed.This is just me ,everyone to their own.
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Maybe they are doing it to try and keep the cheap Chinese tires the trailers come with from blowing out.
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I doubt they put nitrogen in the tires. Even if they did I have added/removed air from all 4 tires so I have defeated the purpose already!

I'd rather they spent the extra money on:



Better tires

Wood tape to cover numerous staple holes in cabinets

Upgraded carpet

Putty that matches my cabinets



Nice thought though!
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Putting nitrogen in tires for a non-commercial application is not beneficial.



Under normal, non-commercial conditions, the temperature difference is marginal as is the moisture difference.



For camping purposes, I think the 70% nitrogen solution is fine.
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Putting nitrogen in tires for a non-commercial application is not beneficial.



Under normal, non-commercial conditions, the temperature difference is marginal as is the moisture difference.



For camping purposes, I think the 70% nitrogen solution is fine.


My thoughts as well!
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One of the benefits of nitrogen is its flat pressure curve with heat. With air - as it is heated the pressure will rise - with nitrogen this is not the case (as much). So - when you put 65 pounds of air in your tire - after a couple of hours on the road - there should be 65 pounds - not some higher value due to thermal expansion. Sounds excellent in theory - in reality though rims and tires rarely ever have a "perfect" seal - so there will/may be some loss - which has to be replenished - and unless you carry a nitro bottle with you - well - good luck. 39.50 - I think it would be better spent on abottle of whiskeyand a night by the fire solving world problems..... However, that could be the Navy in me speaking out loud....
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One of the benefits of nitrogen is its flat pressure curve with heat. With air - as it is heated the pressure will rise - with nitrogen this is not the case (as much). So - when you put 65 pounds of air in your tire - after a couple of hours on the road - there should be 65 pounds - not some higher value due to thermal expansion. Sounds excellent in theory - in reality though rims and tires rarely ever have a "perfect" seal - so there will/may be some loss - which has to be replenished - and unless you carry a nitro bottle with you - well - good luck. 39.50 - I think it would be better spent on abottle of whiskeyand a night by the fire solving world problems..... However, that could be the Navy in me speaking out loud....


And the Navy would be right, except it should read Vodka, IMHO.
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That would be Ketel One? Grey Goose? Absolute?
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Just went out to check the air pressure in the 5er tires, the valve stem caps say Nitro Fill or something like that. Oh well heading for the Factory Rally in Shipshewana. Will be leaving on Friday. See you all there.
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If the tire maker sets 65 psi as cold inflation pressure knowing that the air will heat up and increase the tire pressure to 68-70 psi which must be the pressure they recommend ,knowing the process.When you use N2 to fill the tiredo you still inflate to 65 psi or is there a adjusted pressure that should be added?If proper air pressure were to be only 65 psi max pressure,why wouldn't they set cold inflation with air at 62-63 psi so when air gets heated,its at max pressure or just under.?Something to think about I guess.
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We've owneda Chevy Tahoe for 2 years now. When it was new the tires were filled with nitrogen from the factory. I've never had to add air to any of the tires and the monitoring system shows all tire pressures within 1 pound of what is stamped on the tire. I've even double checked the tire pressurewith a hand held pressure gauge. I believe the nitrogen is more consistant at holding the correct pressure. BUT, ifI everhave tofill any of the tires I will not pay tohave nitrogen put back in. If they want to do it forfree, fine, but I won't pay for it.
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I saw this on the Cameos from Carriage.
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Those are some lofty goals and boasting when even the tire manufacturers aren't in agreement ont he benefit of filling tires with nitrogen!
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:16 PM   #20
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Nitrogen filled tires will maintain their pressure after hour upon hour of driving. If you have to add air because of tire pressure loss then return the tire to the dealer and they should repair as neccessary. Scott said he's never had to add air to his Tahoe in 2 yrs. Obviously thats something to consider.

I just finished a long haul with my RV and had a blow out on my truck front tire at 70mph. Luckily no damage to the TV or 5ver.Now I'm considering nitorgen filled tires plus balancingespecially on my 5ver. My truck tires have after market wheels and for some reason tire shops will not fill these with nitrogen.

I noticed after the blow out that air pressure difference from cold to hot was nearly 10 psi. Food for thought. I've always run my truck tires at around 65psi. This happend to be the only time I'd run them aroun 70. After the mis hap, truck tires were setat 65 and the trailer at 65 and there seems to be no indication of uneven wear.

As for the cheapy mission tires, like I said I just put a whole lot a miles on and my tires are wearing perfectly normal (a little quicker than I'd like) but I guess I'm just lucky.
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