New trailer, new member

[ConveyTrex]

Hi everyone, another new member here.
After researching, looking, and waiting a year and a half for the right deal on the right trailer, I just traded in my pup for a new Z-1 252TD! And the first thing I said when I saw it for the first time for my walk around was "damn, it's a lot bigger in person than in the pics"...and it certainly is a lot bigger than my pup was! No matter, I hooked it up and pulled it the 400 miles back home and the family (who were all sad to see the pup go) couldn't be more excited about planning our next camping trip (which is going to be in our side yard next to the oak tree). Below are a couple of before and after pics...

[socoguy]

Welcome aboard and congratulations on the new rig. I think many of us had our first camp in the driveway. We just had to try it out!
Have not seen that front deck before what is the intended use? Is there a ramp for loading? What are the weight limitations?
Best of luck and safe travels.

[Lloyd]

Welcome aboard.
I'll bet that frame extension would make CR and Lippert scratch their head.

[socoguy]

Lloyd I have not checked but that is a CR product is it not?

[ConveyTrex]

Thanks!
Al - which front deck do you mean - the Z-1? It is standard on the CR 218TD and 252TD toy haulers, good for 1500#. The pup is a Viking Legend 2275sc, the deck on that is 60x80 with a 2700# carrying cap. The deck rails on both campers are also the loading ramps.
Here is the CR toy hauler -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHNfHu9WTiA

[mark5w]

Yup, it's made by Crossroads.
Specs:

Dry Weight: 5725
GVWR: 9270
Carrying Capacity: 3545
Hitch Weight: 670
Axle Weight: 5055
Exterior Length: 37' 9"

This price I saw online was very economical.

[Lloyd]

Originally Posted by socoguy

Lloyd I have not checked but that is a CR product is it not?

I guess you are right Al.
I never realized CR had a rig like that on the market.

[Tim D]

I like it over a "traditional" toy hauler.

[ZT211RD]

Welcome. We looked hard at that model as well. Enjoy.

[socoguy]

Originally Posted by Tim D

I like it over a "traditional" toy hauler.

I agree Tim. I wonder how it tows with the toys aboard. They are quoting 1500lb capacity on that deck.

[sleepyT]

Didn't read all the down the post so some one could have already said this, but I think KZ made a camper like this for years...

Matt & Kristen
Congratulations on the new camper, it looks great...Also welcome to the forum...

[Tim D]

Originally Posted by socoguy

I agree Tim. I wonder how it tows with the toys aboard. They are quoting 1500lb capacity on that deck.

What to you think that does to tongue weight? Only makes sense it would be heavy.

[mark5w]

But the dry weight is only 5725 lbs, so I don't thing it matters too much for the tongue weight.

[Tim D]

Originally Posted by mark5w

But the dry weight is only 5725 lbs, so I don't thing it matters too much for the tongue weight.

What about loaded down with a couple ATVs or UTV? There is a lot of trailer out in front of those axles.

[mark5w]

Well, it can only hold 1500lbs. and I'm sure the frame is made to handle this. I don't think it's much different then if it was a regular 37' TT.

[socoguy]

Originally Posted by mark5w

Well, it can only hold 1500lbs. and I'm sure the frame is made to handle this. I don't think it's much different then if it was a regular 37' TT.

I would imagine proper loading and tie down would be important.

[Lloyd]

I wonder what happens to the load distribution. She might be kind of light on the hitch without that front deck being loaded, or she might be kind of heavy on the hitch with it loaded.
1500# is a lot of weight to be playing around with. Especially if you don't have a heavy enough tv.

It would be interesting if the op has ever weighed it out to see how that weight changes things.

[ConveyTrex]

I haven't had a chance to weigh it or load the atvs on it yet, just got it home on Saturday. The kitchen sticker says it is 5856 dry, and the specs say dry hitch weight is 694. The fresh water is 54 gal and the tank is right in front of the axles. There is one 26 gal grey tank right behind the axles. At the very rear of the trailer there is a 2nd 26 gal grey tank and a 26 gal black tank. At the back of the trailer is the bathroom and 2 full size bunks. The kitchen and dinette are in the middle over the axles, and there is a walk around queen bed in the nose. If the 690 dry hitch weight in their specs is correct, I would guess that the hitch weight would go up to somewhere around 1000 with my 1300 lbs of atvs loaded. It handled fine dry for the 400 mile trip home from the dealer, the bigger issue was the length...the deck puts the axles back another 10 feet from the tv, so you have to pay extra attention when turning corners. I'll attempt to weigh it both dry and loaded when I get a chance and compare the handling and post the results.

[PARTS GUY]

welcome to the site nice to see someone else from mass enjoy may see ya at normandy farms ??

[JEH412]

Welcome! We just went from a large popup to a Z-1 208FL in October. We've had ot our twice and are loving it.

John