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Old 06-09-2016, 08:09 AM   #1
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EcoBoost or 5.3 GM?

Pulling my 30RK with an 08' GMC 1500 with a 5.3 (315 HP?). For local trips it tows fine (less than 4 hrs). Up grades I can pull 45mph in 2nd gear, but if I get stuck behind a big rig doing 30 then I am screwed. I loose all my momentum and truck gets hot trying to build it back up. The other thing that gets me is in 08' they still had a 4 speed. Even doing 62 on a flat road, my truck will not pull my trailer in 4th gear without the tranny getting hot or shifting between 3rd & 4th constantly. I want to start taking some out of state trips, but fuel economy and noise is killing me.

Looking at either an EcoBoost or a new GM. Just curious what your experiences are with either?

*disclaimer- price of diesel trucks in Commiefornia is a joke. Since addition of DPF/Urea and Smog, the price of used diesel pickups has skyrocketed. Can't afford a new one. A used d-max in decent shape is hard to find and about $35k+. That's 10 years old with over 100K miles. Might as well buy a 2 year old F-150 Lariat or 1500 LTZ/SLT for that kind of money.
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I for one cannot say anything good or bad about the GM product. However as a former owner of a 2013 F-150 EcoBoost I must say I was more than pleased with its performance.
I used it for three years towing a light weight fiver 34', 7200 lbs dry weight (I never scaled it loaded). I had it over the many of the Colorado passes including Raton Pass, the highest interstate pass in the nation. It never missed a lick. Most of the time I drove at an easy pace of 60-65 MPH depending on conditions such as wind using cruise control in drive.
I was extremely pleased with the truck.
My fiver upgraded and gained considerable weight which is why I now have a Ram diesel. If ford had made a 3/4 ton with an EcoBoost I would have bought it!
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Old 06-09-2016, 01:52 PM   #3
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I've been pulling my Cruiser with my Eco boost for almost 4 seasons. Never had a problem. Lot's of torque. If you compare the 2 trucks it's not even close. In addition, I have the heavy duty towing AND payload option. My bed can hold almost 2400 lbs. That's important. Any other question, pm me and I'll do my best to answer.
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Of the two, the Eco-boost is definitely the better setup.

You said no diesel, but if you are purchasing a new truck and not used, you may want to look into the Nissan with the Cummins diesel. I was able to get mine for nearly $10K less than a comparably equiped F-150 Eco-boost. The DEF isn't that bad, I am adding 2 1/2 gallons about every 1200 miles. Can buy the DEF for $15.
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You my want to look into a gas Super Duty, I paid less for mine then a buddy of mine did for an Eco-boost F-150.
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x2 on the gas 2500. If you don't want a ton of bells & whistles, you can order one for less than most 1500's. I've considered it for when my lease is up.
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Another thing is, I have more payload then a lot of diesel 350's. I ordered mine with a 4.30 rear axle to get the most tow rating.
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I had it over the many of the Colorado passes including Raton Pass, the highest interstate pass in the nation.
I have never considered Raton Pass to be much of a challenge and certainly not the highest interstate pass, so here is what I found.


1. Colorado- Eisenhower Tunnel (I-70) 11,292 ft.
2. Colorado- Vail Pass (I-70) 10,662 ft.
3. Wyoming- Sherman Hill Summit (I-80) 8,640 ft.
4. Utah- Salina Summit (I-70) 7,923 ft.
5. New Mexico- Raton Pass (I-25) 7,830 ft.
6. California- Donner Summit (I-80) 7,239 ft.
7. Arizona- Hermann Pass (I-17) @7,000 ft.
8. Nevada- Pequop Summit (I-80) 6,967 ft.
9. Idaho/Montana- Monida Pass (I-15) 6,823 ft.
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Pulling my 30RK with an 08' GMC 1500 with a 5.3 (315 HP?). For local trips it tows fine (less than 4 hrs). Up grades I can pull 45mph in 2nd gear, but if I get stuck behind a big rig doing 30 then I am screwed. I loose all my momentum and truck gets hot trying to build it back up. The other thing that gets me is in 08' they still had a 4 speed. Even doing 62 on a flat road, my truck will not pull my trailer in 4th gear without the tranny getting hot or shifting between 3rd & 4th constantly. I want to start taking some out of state trips, but fuel economy and noise is killing me.

Looking at either an EcoBoost or a new GM. Just curious what your experiences are with either?

*disclaimer- price of diesel trucks in Commiefornia is a joke. Since addition of DPF/Urea and Smog, the price of used diesel pickups has skyrocketed. Can't afford a new one. A used d-max in decent shape is hard to find and about $35k+. That's 10 years old with over 100K miles. Might as well buy a 2 year old F-150 Lariat or 1500 LTZ/SLT for that kind of money.

A couple years back we took a trip to South Fork CO.
We pulled over la veta pass. They claim the elevation is 9,426.
I had the cruise set about 58 mph and that is what we were doing when we hit the top.
What you decide for a future trailer should govern what your needs for a new truck will be.
For the size of our rig, I'm totally satisfied with my truck.
Good luck in the hunt. That's half the fun.
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I have never considered Raton Pass to be much of a challenge and certainly not the highest interstate pass, so here is what I found.


1. Colorado- Eisenhower Tunnel (I-70) 11,292 ft.
2. Colorado- Vail Pass (I-70) 10,662 ft.
3. Wyoming- Sherman Hill Summit (I-80) 8,640 ft.
4. Utah- Salina Summit (I-70) 7,923 ft.
5. New Mexico- Raton Pass (I-25) 7,830 ft.
6. California- Donner Summit (I-80) 7,239 ft.
7. Arizona- Hermann Pass (I-17) @7,000 ft.
8. Nevada- Pequop Summit (I-80) 6,967 ft.
9. Idaho/Montana- Monida Pass (I-15) 6,823 ft.
I stand corrected, not the highest but the steepest.
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