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Old 07-25-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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Hi all, we are pretty new to RV'ing and just bought a 2012 Zinger 26bh. The dealer said we could easily tow it with our 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 hemi 3.55 axle. (I realize they all say that) The dry weight of the TT is 5850lbs. We have a good weight distribution hitch and pulled it 200 miles from the dealer to our house. The only issue seemed to be engine power in a few spots. Never had any sway or anything like that even while being passed by big semi trucks. I think with passengers and gear we might be right around the max tow capacity of our truck (7400 lbs). My question is when I read about people saying it's too dangerous to pull that much with a 1/2 ton, what exactly is the danger? It seemed to pull just fine and never felt it was swaying at all. Am I just being paranoid with everything I'm reading or am I missing something?



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Old 07-25-2012, 10:14 AM   #2
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When you are close to the max limit, wear and tear on the drivetrain really comes into play. I towed a 7500lb bumper pull with a 1500 Suburban for several years. Flat roads were fine but hills really took its toll. The engine worked too hard in the mountains and the rear axle went south after 60K miles. Another issue is just plain stopping ability. Stopping that much weight is really hard on the TV brakes so don't tailgate!



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Old 07-25-2012, 12:43 PM   #3
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pulled a 27 ft roadrunner and then a 26 ft laredo with my 2003 dodge qc hemi,i just learned to plan my routes to avoid mountains and big hills.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:02 PM   #4
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We towed w/ a half ton SUV (armada). Ourarmada probably had a shorter wheel base than your ram. Our TT weighed approx what yours does when weighed empty. It weighs in at 7000 lbs loaded. The armada was rated to tow 9100 lbs but the available payload (before subtracting passengers, cargo, pets etc) was only 800 lbs (did not understand this weight and it's role when I purchased a TT). The loaded tongue weight of my TT is approx 980 lbs (if we don't load tongue heavy, this TT likes to sway). With approx 80% of that 980 lbs (784 lbs) actually on the TV that put us way over once you add in 2 not so light adults, a child and a 70 lb dog. I tell you this to show you how you can be within specs on some numbers but not all and being off on one of those numbers can give you a bad ride. When towing empty home from the dealership, we had no problems. This was on flat land and about 1 1/2 hrs of highway travel. Once loaded the "fun" began. We had majorhandling problemson highways (not so much on back roads). We tried a lot of things to combat this, new E rated tires, hitch adjustments, etc. Never fixed that problem but tried to deal with it. When we towed in the mountains, we found major issues. Going up the 7% grade, the engine struggled, the tranny would get really hot (we had a tranny temp guage) so we would have to downshift to cool the tranny. We were at 20mph by the top of the hill and thanking god we made it there. Going down a 7% grade on the highway, we were able to handle it. Going down a 7% grade on a back road with lots of twists and turns that you had to keep speeds way down, we got pushed despite using lots of tricks to keep it safe. That was very scary getting pushed down a mountain, it was the final straw for us and we upgraded to the TV in our signature.

Things may not go the same way for you. You have your combo now. The only thing you can do is check your weights carefully and load light. I would go weigh your TV loaded and ready to camp. Take this number and subtract it from your TV's GVWR to get your actual available payload. Take the scale number and subtract it from your TV's GCWR to get your adjusted towing capacity (it will probably be lower than you think). Then get a weight on your TT loaded and disconnected from your truck (if on a cat scale, have truck front tires on scale pad 1, truck rear tires on scale pad 2, and TT w/ tongue and disconnected from TVon scale pad 3). Get your print out and look at your weights. Remember that the tongue weight should be somewhere between 13-15% of the loaded TT's weight. About 80% of that tongue weight will actually be on the TV and 20% on the TT thanks to the WDH. This will tell you exactly where you stand. Now, you have this TV and this TT, so you could always try it and see how it does or trade it in on something bigger. What is your comfort level when it comes to safety of your family and liabilities if in an accident and found to be overweight is entirely up to you. We lasted 1 season before the upgrade and have not regrettedupgradingat all. The true test will be when I tackle that same scary mountain in October with the new to us diesel. I wish you the best of luck and safe towing.

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Old 07-26-2012, 12:29 PM   #5
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Ok, thanks for all the info. We will mostly be pulling within 2-3 hours from home and mostly pretty flat territory. Definitely won't be going through any mountains. If anyone pulls this TT with a 1/2 ton, I would like to hear your feedback. We will be taking it out next week for it's first trip and will see how it goes. Thanks.



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I would thing going to a 4.10 ratio would make a big difference for you. If you find the need for more power.
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5 miles or 500 miles, the distance doesn't really matter as you are taking the same risk either way but the terrain does matter. Staying on the flat will put you in better position than in hills/mountains but as stated above, it will be up to you and what you are comfortable doing. Best of luck next week, enjoy your trip!
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I would thing going to a 4.10 ratio would make a big difference for you. If you find the need for more power.












Axle ratio is only part of the issue. The wheels, springs, brakes, even the frame are different depending on the design of the truck. (1/2 v 3/4)

The price to change over to 4.10 or whatever (especially if it's a 4X4), would be better spent on upgrading to a 3/4 ton. Whether you go diesel or not, the truck would be designed for the extra weight.

You would be happier and safer in the long run.



BTW: You were right about one thing. Most salesmen will tell you what you want to hear.

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Old 07-28-2012, 04:32 PM   #9
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I have a sunset trail reserve 25rb with a dry weight of 5900 lb. pulling with a 2003 ford f-150 5.4. We live in southern california which is full of mountains. No problems except pulling up steep grades, but bypassing overdrive I am still able to pull at 55 mph. I plan on keeping my truck for another few years, but my next one will definitely be a 3/4 ton.

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I have a 08 26bh and towed 1 season with f150 then upgraded to a 2500 hd with 6.0 much better and safer 1/2 ton will do it but I didnt enjoy it.
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