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Old 05-12-2014, 01:48 PM   #1
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Hi all,

I had my first shakedown trip on my new 2015 ST28BH this weekend. All went well, with one exception that has my spidey-senses going.

I have a 2011 Ford F250 with the factory built-in brake controller. For this trailer, I have to crank the brake gain up to 10 (max) to get what I feel is the minimal amount of braking power I want out of the trailer. When I do the 30kph braking test, the trailer will slowly bring everything to a stop, when I fully depress the slider control in the truck.

In general, it feels ok when I am doing regular stopping, but I'm concerned that if I need to do some emergency braking, I don't have enough braking power in the trailer.

With my previous ST26BH, I had the gain set at 6.5, and had plenty of braking power behind me.

Thoughts? Can trailer brakes be adjusted to give more braking power? I'm not sure what my options are - is this a truck or trailer issue?

Thanks
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Old 05-12-2014, 01:56 PM   #2
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Does your trailer have self adjusting brakes or are they manual?
If they are manual, I would jack it up and start adjusting. You should be able to slide the wheels in the gravel by just using the brake control lever. I have the Ford brake controller, and if I remember right, I'm set at 6 or 6.5
I don't know how the auto ones adjust. Like a car?? Backup and set the brakes hard??
You should ask your dealer if they check them before you took delivery.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:13 PM   #3
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I also have the factory break controler. I have mine set on 8
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:45 PM   #4
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I have mine about 7. Works great. I think Lloyd hit it right with brake adjustment. I would check them out to be sure.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:05 PM   #5
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Hi all,

I had my first shakedown trip on my new 2015 ST28BH this weekend. All went well, with one exception that has my spidey-senses going.

I have a 2011 Ford F250 with the factory built-in brake controller. For this trailer, I have to crank the brake gain up to 10 (max) to get what I feel is the minimal amount of braking power I want out of the trailer. When I do the 30kph braking test, the trailer will slowly bring everything to a stop, when I fully depress the slider control in the truck.

In general, it feels ok when I am doing regular stopping, but I'm concerned that if I need to do some emergency braking, I don't have enough braking power in the trailer.

With my previous ST26BH, I had the gain set at 6.5, and had plenty of braking power behind me.

Thoughts? Can trailer brakes be adjusted to give more braking power? I'm not sure what my options are - is this a truck or trailer issue?

Thanks
Have you given the brake shoes a chance to seat in to the drums? They don't work great until they seat.

Do the gravel test. That's 8000 lbs of truck plus the trailer you are asking the trailer brakes to stop.
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Old 05-12-2014, 05:06 PM   #6
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12,700 lbs of trailer behind my 2011 F350 and I have the factory brake controller set at 7.5 and I can feel it slowing the trailer proportionately behind me when braking. The brake controller is proportionate to the degree of brake you are applying - best to do the gravel test with the slider to make sure your brakes are locking up first. You also have to be above 15 mph to feel it start to grab when you are testing it or setting it up initially. Should have lots of grab at 20 mph with the gain set lower than 10 if you come down on the brakes hard. If it doesn't have any response, you may need to get your factory controller checked out after confirming your trailer brakes are functioning correctly. Pull your safety pin on the trailer and see if it locks up the trailer brakes solid first.
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I had my old ford integrated brake controller set right around 6-6.5. You should be able to lock the tt wheels up with a lower setting than 10 so minimal brake power at 10 something is not right. You can check to see if you have power at your 7 pin connector. That is often helpful info, I found a busted prodigy P3 that way once (prodigy replaced it under warranty). Checking the tt brakes is a very good idea as well.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:13 AM   #8
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Agree with all the posts hear and as an addition, once you've done what you can with adjusting the trailer brakes, you can also put heavy duty pads on the truck. With you being up north, I'd make that a last option since I found the high performance pads handle heat well, but feel mushy in the winter.
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:27 AM   #9
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Look at EBC brake pads, no mushy and great heat dissipation. http://ebcbrakes.com/products/brake-pads/
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:34 PM   #10
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Mark..which pads, orange stuff, green stuff, extra duty?

I had green stuff on my last car and they were too hard for the ohio winters. Not enough heat for them to grab during cold weather driving.
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