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Old 01-23-2018, 06:52 AM   #1
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Hello, I decided to buy the RV that I wanted, which is a 2018 Sunset Trail 291RK. Now I am looking for a truck to tow it. So I am looking for any recommendations from the experienced folks here. Thanks In advance!!
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:42 AM   #2
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Wow! Did you just open up a big ole can of worms with that question! Let the war begin!
For towing nothing is better than a newer model diesel, they've got exhaust brakes, tow/haul which aids in downhill also, lots of power, & most get better mpg towing than a gasser. Some say the maintenance on a diesel is much more, but having one as a daily driver for that last 13 years I haven't noticed much difference.
Another plus for diesel is refueling, you'll get into any truck stop for diesel, can also get DEF at pump there, but with a longer trailer it could be a bit of a hassle to get into/out of a lot of gas stations.
As for the make, I'm not starting the war other than to say, I've got my couple favorites & one I would never own, you'll have choose what best suits your needs.
Just my .02 cents.
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For what it's worth - I pull my Sunset Trail 29RL with a Ford F250 gasser and have never had a problem doing the speed limit.
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I've been pulling a 40 ft fifthwheel with a gas F-250 for 4yrs now and never felt like I need more power or torque. I've never had any problems at the pumps,may just have to wait a few minutes for someone to fill up there car probably faster then waiting on a big truck to fill up with 300 gallons. My fifthwheel weight is 14,175 pounds,and I get between 8-10 mpg towing.
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I have a 30' Sunstet Trail that weighs 6800 empty. We pull it with an 2015 F-150 ecoboost 3.5L Plenty of power, however, on windy days we get a little nervous towing on the expressway and slow down to 55 for safety measures. I also have a 2010 F-150 and am going to be upgrading soon to an F-250 gasser for being heavier and more stable. All the diesel fan boys are going to say get a diesel, it's awesome.

They are right. However, most these days are fearful of the day their warranty runs out on the newer ones because they are VERY costly to fix vs. the gas counter part with all the new diesel emissions components. Just my 2 cents. But I'll grab my popcorn now, and maybe an ice pack because I'm sure someone's going to beat on me for my statements a bit.
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I've been pulling a 40 ft fifthwheel with a gas F-250 for 4yrs now and never felt like I need more power or torque. I've never had any problems at the pumps,may just have to wait a few minutes for someone to fill up there car probably faster then waiting on a big truck to fill up with 300 gallons. My fifthwheel weight is 14,175 pounds,and I get between 8-10 mpg towing.

You must have the 4.30 gear set then for your rear axle as max trailer weight I believer on the ford gasser is around 12,500 with the 3.73. I'm curious what kind of mpg do you get unloaded both around town, and highway? I'm debating on ordering the 4.30 instead of the 3.73 but think it may be overkill for mostly pulling in the Midwest.
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You must have the 4.30 gear set then for your rear axle as max trailer weight I believer on the ford gasser is around 12,500 with the 3.73. I'm curious what kind of mpg do you get unloaded both around town, and highway? I'm debating on ordering the 4.30 instead of the 3.73 but think it may be overkill for mostly pulling in the Midwest.
Yes sir, I ordered mine with a 4.30 rear axle,gives me a 15,100 tow rating. Knowing I could get a 5er with a GVWR of 16,000,we pack light taking only what we need after a few years you know what you use and what you don't. I get around 15-18 mpg solo. I read somewhere the difference between 3.73 and 4.30 is 1.6 mpg.

The biG difference between gas and diesel is payload a f-250 diesel run between 1100-2200 depending on set up. A gas 250 can get up in the mid 3000s. Like you said owning a diesel comes with a cost much greater then gas.
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I have a 30' Sunstet Trail that weighs 6800 empty. We pull it with an 2015 F-150 ecoboost 3.5L Plenty of power, however, on windy days we get a little nervous towing on the expressway and slow down to 55 for safety measures. I also have a 2010 F-150 and am going to be upgrading soon to an F-250 gasser for being heavier and more stable. All the diesel fan boys are going to say get a diesel, it's awesome.

They are right. However, most these days are fearful of the day their warranty runs out on the newer ones because they are VERY costly to fix vs. the gas counter part with all the new diesel emissions components. Just my 2 cents. But I'll grab my popcorn now, and maybe an ice pack because I'm sure someone's going to beat on me for my statements a bit.
As I mentioned earlier, I'm 10k short of putting 300k (close to 1/2 of that towing heavy 5ers) on 2 diesel daily drivers & have not noticed where all the expensive maintenance is coming from other than diesel cost 8-10 cents a gallon (excluding truck stops) more than gas.
You'll chose what you want/need as you should, but the maintenance theory doesn't hold water in my opinion.
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I have a 30' Sunstet Trail that weighs 6800 empty. We pull it with an 2015 F-150 ecoboost 3.5L Plenty of power, however, on windy days we get a little nervous towing on the expressway and slow down to 55 for safety measures. I also have a 2010 F-150 and am going to be upgrading soon to an F-250 gasser for being heavier and more stable. All the diesel fan boys are going to say get a diesel, it's awesome.

They are right. However, most these days are fearful of the day their warranty runs out on the newer ones because they are VERY costly to fix vs. the gas counter part with all the new diesel emissions components. Just my 2 cents. But I'll grab my popcorn now, and maybe an ice pack because I'm sure someone's going to beat on me for my statements a bit.

I think I will weigh in here now.
Tim, if you have the correct hitch and it's set up correctly, I can't imagine that you are feeling the wind shift you around to the point that it gives that white knuckle experience.
I have talked with numerous people who tow with either the Hensley, or Pro-Pride hitch, and they say they hardly know the camper is back there. I have known a couple of then personally.
If your f-150 Eco-Boost is set up like mine is, you should have more truck there then is required for your camper.
I had a 2500 Duramax which I replaced with my present ECO-Boost. This truck is every bit as heavy and big (if not bigger then my old Chevy. It handles my camper just as well.


Now, diesels do cost more to fix. It's a known fact.
They cost more to begin with when you purchase one. Several thousand dollars more. Even some of the most unscrupulous salesmen out there are usually willing to admit to that fact.


Oil changes cost more, fuel filters cost more, and if things haven't changed since I had mine, that fuel filter is very expensive in my view. Ask anybody who has had to change the injectors on their diesel how much it cost them.


Diesel fuel in our area is not 8 to 10 cents a gallon more. It's 40 cents per gallon more. You will have to drive that diesel a long time to ever break even over the extra it will cost you..
The new gas engines will run as long as most people will ever own their new truck. The oils they have out now days are so superior to what was on the markets years back. With proper maintenance, they will rival the longevity of most diesel pick ups.


Plus, I will add, they will do it without the noxious odor emitted by that diesel. I know I know, they will say the new diesel doesn't stink like that any more. My answer to that is—just get behind one when he is pulling his camper up a pretty good grade, or when he steps it to the floor to pass somebody.


Bottom line is—you are the one buying that new truck, get what you want!
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